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20. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 19, 2020, 19:54  RedEye9 
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 17:28:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 05:57:
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 04:57:
As the famous prophet Woody Harrelson once said:

"Time to nut up or shut up"

That's what my wife says to me...

Guess that explains the raging case of blue balls...
Is that an Intel slam Huh Inquisitive
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19. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 19, 2020, 17:28  Burrito of Peace 
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 05:57:
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 04:57:
As the famous prophet Woody Harrelson once said:

"Time to nut up or shut up"

That's what my wife says to me...

Guess that explains the raging case of blue balls...
 
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18. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 19, 2020, 05:57  jdreyer 
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Jan 19, 2020, 04:57:
As the famous prophet Woody Harrelson once said:

"Time to nut up or shut up"

That's what my wife says to me...
 
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17. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 19, 2020, 04:57 Mordecai Walfish
 
As the famous prophet Woody Harrelson once said:

"Time to nut up or shut up"
 
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16. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 21:27  wtf_man 
 
AMD confirms ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card will be out in 2020

Killer to what? Over a year old Turing? Or ready to retaliate Ampere?

nVidia is nowhere near in the situation that Intel is... so they need to be careful with that statement.

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15. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 19:03  RedEye9 
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 18:55:
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 17:18:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 17:15:
AMD confirms ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card will be out in 2020.Big words little man.
It would be nice to have competition in the high end gpu market. Time will tell.
Oh, no doubt. But I'll believe it when I see it. I hate marketing.
Agreed.
That's why I don't kickstart or pre-order games etc.
I have no problem waiting for the finished product.
 
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14. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 18:55  jdreyer 
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 17:18:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 17:15:
AMD confirms ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card will be out in 2020.Big words little man.
It would be nice to have competition in the high end gpu market. Time will tell.
Oh, no doubt. But I'll believe it when I see it. I hate marketing.
 
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13. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 18:31 BIGtrouble77
 
Saboth wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 15:04:
I'm still with Intel and Nvidia (mostly because what I have can run most games fine, even on high settings). One reason I haven't thought about AMD is they have had heat and noise problems in the past. I'm not interested in complex rigs or water cooling, and noise and heat is probably just as important as FPS (maybe more so) to me. While AMD has managed to catch up in sheer speed, their thermals still seem to run very hot, unless something has changed in recent iterations.
You've got this completely wrong. Current gen AMD has no such problems. I cool my Threadripper 2950x (16 core) chip with a $40 Noctua air cooler. zero issues with heat and the noise is virtually imperceptible.
 
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12. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 17:18  RedEye9 
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 17:15:
AMD confirms ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card will be out in 2020.Big words little man.
It would be nice to have competition in the high end gpu market. Time will tell.
 
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11. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 17:15  jdreyer 
 
AMD confirms ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card will be out in 2020.

Big words little man.
 
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10. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 17:12 DG
 
Saboth wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 15:04:
I'm still with Intel and Nvidia (mostly because what I have can run most games fine, even on high settings). One reason I haven't thought about AMD is they have had heat and noise problems in the past. I'm not interested in complex rigs or water cooling, and noise and heat is probably just as important as FPS (maybe more so) to me. While AMD has managed to catch up in sheer speed, their thermals still seem to run very hot, unless something has changed in recent iterations.
They've all had heat problems in the past if you go far back enough, imtel is better known for it than AMD in my timeframe.

I finally upgraded my intel 2400k for an AMD 3700X, TDP is only 65w, so it is sitting quietly under the fairly decent stock cooler. Most of the intel and AMD chips seems to be 95w.
 
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9. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 16:53 Armengar
 
Happy with my 9600k running at 5k and my 1660ti. Runs a rifts more than adequate. 3600x should beat it with a vega 56 but it simply doesnt.

Took my rifts to a mates house and it was quite jerky in a few games. Sure the benchmarka might be the same but quality was not there.
 



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8. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 16:48 phinn
 
El Pit wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 15:52:
The power consumption (and therefore the thermals) of the Ryzen CPUs is quite low

Yea definitely Ryzen 3000 does well for power efficiency but not all of them, there are a couple that are 105W TDP. The 3700X is a technical beast right now though in terms of performance/watt being only 65W TDP.
 
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7. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 16:34  RedEye9 
 
phinn wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 13:30:
Just a couple years ago the Core i5 was 4 threads now it's about to be 12? Thanks AMD.
Competition has done wonders for central processing units.
 
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6. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 16:30  Verno 
 
"Big Navi" needs to do more than best an Nvidia card released in 2016. And yeah their driver quality backslid again after a few years of improvement. Steve from GN said that they were going to take it more seriously as per an interview but they really need to staff up to do so, their driver division has been a skeleton crew.

The CPU market is exciting now and we really need AMD to finally bring it on the GPU side of things. Hopefully once they cast of the last vestiges of Raja Koduri's bullshit designs they can do so.
 
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5. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 16:22 theglaze
 
AMD is too slow with video drivers and hot fixes for new games.  
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4. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 15:53  Simon Says 
 
Saboth wrote on Jan 18, 2020, 15:04:
One reason I haven't thought about AMD is they have had heat and noise problems in the past. I'm not interested in complex rigs or water cooling, and noise and heat is probably just as important as FPS (maybe more so) to me.

AMDs CPUs are cooler, faster and quieter. It's the other way around now mate. Cooling a 12c/24t 3900X or 8c/16t 3700X is easy, cooling an Intel 8c/16t 9900K with a mere 5%'ish lead on average in games is pretty hard by comparison. And their upcoming 10th gen 10c/20t is just going to be a nightmare to cool down.

For GPUs, you're still better off with Nvidia for thermals/noise.

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3. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 15:52  El Pit 
 
The power consumption (and therefore the thermals) of the Ryzen CPUs is quite low - they are now the best CPU for gamers in cost-benefit-ratio. When it comes to GPUs, though, AMD is still way behind Nvidia and the power consumption of their GPUs is a bad joke even at 7 nm.  



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2. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 15:04 Saboth
 
I'm still with Intel and Nvidia (mostly because what I have can run most games fine, even on high settings). One reason I haven't thought about AMD is they have had heat and noise problems in the past. I'm not interested in complex rigs or water cooling, and noise and heat is probably just as important as FPS (maybe more so) to me. While AMD has managed to catch up in sheer speed, their thermals still seem to run very hot, unless something has changed in recent iterations.  
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1. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 18, 2020, 13:30 phinn
 
Just a couple years ago the Core i5 was 4 threads now it's about to be 12? Thanks AMD.  
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