Beamer wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 07:41:

Kxmode wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 01:57:

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Now where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right. In the Epic Games Store threads, only the tables turned and you're the fan of EGS in them. Do you see how easy it is to name call and label make when the other person doesn't share your point of view.

No, when a person posts the same thing like a robot, endlessly derailing every thread. In your time here, numerous people have complained about you ruining topics with your own agenda. As the SC fanatics both ways do.

I mean, hell, you managed to bring your EGS whining to a topic about some Stardock game not even connected to EGS.

"whining." You're using projection, again.

I am merely posting an observation about how you consistently use label making and name-calling (e.g. "robot," "fanatics") regardless if you're for or against something. If you want to disagree with someone, that's fine. But lay off the personal jabs.

Sepharo wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 02:26:

Kxmode wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 02:03:

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wat

In his post history, multiple times.
He says now he's joking but it didn't sound like it at the time:
"on the other hand, your comments here and on other sites leads me to think DS smurf account, I could be wrong"

what a zinger, right?

I'm not going there. That's old school stuff.

I'm sure NasWulf means well.

Kxmode wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 01:57:

Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 12:10:

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:28:

Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:05:
You're lashing out because people think it's hysterical that you endlessly defend a game that there's no point to you defending. You aren't impacting the development. You aren't being given a free ship. You've tied your emotions and identity up into it for some reason, and are taking a hard stand and making really poorly thought out arguments to defend it.

Funny part is , I haven't spent a dime on it. Believe what you want, that your interpretation. And youre correct I am frustrated at the narrow mind set and the audacity of some posters here. It is frustrating to listen to mindsets who dont agree with anything but what they believe. The echo chamber here can sometimes make me shake my head and the sheer stupidity on my part to think anything I say would ever make a difference in the mind sets here. I'm done here for a while..

I didn't say you had spent a dime.
But you have a very closed mind about the game. You may think you're being neutral, but you're being kind of a fanatic. You're a defense force for something that isn't owed, and doesn't deserve. Let people think the development is a joke. If the game comes out and is incredible, they look like fools. If it never comes out, or if it sucks, you look like a fool.

No one wants to look the way Derek Smart has in all of this.

Now where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right. In the Epic Games Store threads, only the tables turned and you're the fan of EGS in them. Do you see how easy it is to name call and label make when the other person doesn't share your point of view.

No, when a person posts the same thing like a robot, endlessly derailing every thread. In your time here, numerous people have complained about you ruining topics with your own agenda. As the SC fanatics both ways do.

I mean, hell, you managed to bring your EGS whining to a topic about some Stardock game not even connected to EGS.

This comment was edited on Jan 16, 2020, 08:45.

Kxmode wrote on Jan 16, 2020, 02:03:

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:19:
No sane person would ever claim that those 120+ posts over 5 years aren't defending SC.
Just go read a few.

edit: You think kxmode is derek smart lol

wat

In his post history, multiple times.
He says now he's joking but it didn't sound like it at the time:
"on the other hand, your comments here and on other sites leads me to think DS smurf account, I could be wrong"

what a zinger, right?

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:19:
No sane person would ever claim that those 120+ posts over 5 years aren't defending SC.
Just go read a few.

edit: You think kxmode is derek smart lol

wat

Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 12:10:

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:28:

Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:05:
You're lashing out because people think it's hysterical that you endlessly defend a game that there's no point to you defending. You aren't impacting the development. You aren't being given a free ship. You've tied your emotions and identity up into it for some reason, and are taking a hard stand and making really poorly thought out arguments to defend it.

Funny part is , I haven't spent a dime on it. Believe what you want, that your interpretation. And youre correct I am frustrated at the narrow mind set and the audacity of some posters here. It is frustrating to listen to mindsets who dont agree with anything but what they believe. The echo chamber here can sometimes make me shake my head and the sheer stupidity on my part to think anything I say would ever make a difference in the mind sets here. I'm done here for a while..

I didn't say you had spent a dime.
But you have a very closed mind about the game. You may think you're being neutral, but you're being kind of a fanatic. You're a defense force for something that isn't owed, and doesn't deserve. Let people think the development is a joke. If the game comes out and is incredible, they look like fools. If it never comes out, or if it sucks, you look like a fool.

No one wants to look the way Derek Smart has in all of this.

Now where have I heard this before? Oh, that's right. In the Epic Games Store threads, only the tables turned and you're the fan of EGS in them. Do you see how easy it is to name call and label make when the other person doesn't share your point of view.

NasWulf wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 12:04:

Drayth wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 11:52:
SC is un-rleased, un-launched, un-ready for prime time.

Lets put it this way, on launch day it was perfectly fair to write a formal game review for WoW.

Would you say it's time for PC Gamer to go and give SC a review rating? If you counter this I'm probably not going to bother arguing back. You can't compare the two in terms of state of release.

You're right, they could and they did. But you could argue that they could also continue to do reviews of the base game until it's finished/out of content. Would the 2004 review of WoW launch be valid for today's WoW? No, it would not because of how much the base game has changed since then.

Not saying your wrong, never did. Some reason you think I'm "defending SC" for some reason, which I think is hilarious. I just asked a question on what jdreyer felt as a defined finished product.

And yes, they could do a review and others have/do of SC. No one is stopping anyone and especially true of forums like this one.

Also, you can't say a product is finished by the state of the release, Ubisoft proves that ever time they release a game.

jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2020, 14:56:
"I reject reality and substitute my own." Blizzard considered WoW finished in 2004. The players considered it finished. Only you don't consider it finished.

No one knew in 2004 what WoW would become and what it would change in teams of future game development. So ya, back in 2004 it was considered a finished product until they continue to develop it for 15 more years and changing the base game making it a perpetually unfinished product.

As a long time WoW player I really don't know how to respond to this. WoW is at this point a game with effectively 2-3 sequels depending on how you break down its game design and thats with being pretty specific within the mmorpg genre. The game is finished as it were with each expansion and then they redsign something and make it worse or sometimes better. At the very least you get the last 6+ months of a mostly stable gameplay rules/balance time each expansion.

SC is now two games instead of one and still effectively in alpha 8 years after announcement. For pete's sake, I got a free copy I forgot to claim back in November of 2014 with a R9 290 graphics card.

*removing below the belt comment*

This comment was edited on Jan 14, 2020, 19:19.

I'm not falling flat, you're just denying plain reality.
You defend SC. You do it all the time.
And then you say you don't.

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:19:
No sane person would ever claim that those 120+ posts over 5 years aren't defending SC.
Just go read a few.

edit: You think kxmode is derek smart lol

so, you have 122 posts to prove your point and yet somehow you fall flat yet again. Anyways, here a freebie.... I think I once commented at Derek Smart and one of his shit post about how SC would never be able to complete the Tech they have and how I thought the tech would be awesome if it was brought over to other games like planetside ..... So if that's your smoking gun, you're welcome...

and yes I made a sarcastic comment about a DS follower on a forum ..

/facepalm

Well, I certainly can't deny that CR/RSI/CGI are employing people. The question is whether the people providing the payroll will get what they were promised. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.. but if I was a betting man...

This comment was edited on Jan 14, 2020, 18:53.

No sane person would ever claim that those 120+ posts over 5 years aren't defending SC.
Just go read a few.

edit: You think kxmode is derek smart lol

You didnt read the edit. And that is not defending SC , that is call you out for being an idiots on a gaming forum. And employeeing people is a bad thing? Sigh......try again, only 122 more to go.

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:08:

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:06:

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:02:
Yep, go ahead smart guy. Get back to me when you find your magic bullet.

A much more difficult challenge would be finding a post that's not defending this game.

Edit: It took a bit, but I did manage to find one. Here's a post that seemingly has nothing to do with SC:
A response to someone saying WoW ruined MMOs

You should hang onto this for the next time someone calls you a single issue poster. This is the proof that that's not true!
With this evidence, only 122 of your 123 posts are defending SC, not all of them.

Wait what? Huh? Wait, I thought you were going to single handedly show that I am on a crusade to justify SC and THAT is what you come up with? A post about Diablo mobile?..... wow

You don't read so well.

Anyway here's a link to your first post defending SC

Just imagine I also linked every single other post you've made here, with the exception of that post about WoW that I previously linked.

Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:06:

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:02:
Yep, go ahead smart guy. Get back to me when you find your magic bullet.

A much more difficult challenge would be finding a post that's not defending this game.

Edit: It took a bit, but I did manage to find one. Here's a post that seemingly has nothing to do with SC:
A response to someone saying WoW ruined MMOs

You should hang onto this for the next time someone calls you a single issue poster. This is the proof that that's not true!
With this evidence, only 122 of your 123 posts are defending SC, not all of them.

Wait what? Huh? Wait, I thought you were going to single handedly show that I am on a crusade to justify SC and THAT is what you come up with? Where is that smoking gun post, you can link a diablo mobile post but not a SC post where I'm praising all mighty SC?..... wow

RedEye9 wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:14:

I was done until sherlock showed up to un-mask the man behind the current. He sooo prove everything with that detective work....

Back in 2013 the joke was this will not be out till 2020, now the cultist defend this taking that long …. wtf?

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 13:07:
Last post I promise, ...

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:28:
I'm done here for a while..

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 10:55:
see you in 6 months

NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:02:
Yep, go ahead smart guy. Get back to me when you find your magic bullet.

A much more difficult challenge would be finding a post that's not defending this game.

Edit: It took a bit, but I did manage to find one. Here's a post that seemingly has nothing to do with SC:
A response to someone saying WoW ruined MMOs

You should hang onto this for the next time someone calls you a single issue poster. This is the proof that that's not true!
With this evidence, only 122 of your 123 posts are defending SC, not all of them.

Yep, go ahead smart guy. Get back to me when you find your magic bullet.