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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Dec 29, 2019, 04:25
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Dec 29, 2019, 04:25
Dec 29, 2019, 04:25
 
i've had a blast with RDR2, and these numbers cant be conclusive without taking the rockstar launcher into account, which is probably where a majority of the sales have been, because of the superior pre-order bonuses and the direct line of communication via email, etc to everyone registered to their own Social Club from GTA and previous games.

Using a launcher to launch another launcher is not an optimal experience, IMO, and likely many people who bought on steam previously and had to deal with this, just got it from the source this time.
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Re: etc.
Dec 28, 2019, 11:59
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Re: etc. Dec 28, 2019, 11:59
Dec 28, 2019, 11:59
 
Full price release 1 year after console release, who could have possibly predicted it tanking.. yeah, nobody apparently. I haven't bought it, and don't plan on it unless it's below 15€
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Re: etc.
Dec 28, 2019, 05:05
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Re: etc. Dec 28, 2019, 05:05
Dec 28, 2019, 05:05
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Nobody wants to play Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC
Because it's a very boring horse riding simulator. I usually finish at least the main campaign in open world games but I couldn't complete RDR2. While the missions were OK, everything in between was just...tedious.
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Re: etc.
Dec 27, 2019, 06:41
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Re: etc. Dec 27, 2019, 06:41
Dec 27, 2019, 06:41
 
The open world in RDR2 just does not look that interesting. With the other GTA games there are tons of mods and custom items like cool motorcycles, cars, planes, etc. Not so much in RDR2.

I wanted to like RDR2, but almost every video of it on U(neasy)Tube is done in the morons doing stupid stuff while guffawing like maniacs style, and I was never attracted to that side of the GTA series.

Still it's on my "buy when it goes bargin bin list" cause the price is way too proud at the moment.
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Re: RDR2
Dec 27, 2019, 02:36
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Re: RDR2 Dec 27, 2019, 02:36
Dec 27, 2019, 02:36
 
Creston wrote on Dec 26, 2019, 13:22:
I can see a lot of reasons why it's not super popular on PC.

1) A YEAR delay between console and PC versions, with Rockstar playing their pathetic refusing to acknowledge it game.

2) Weird EGS/Rockstar Launcher only availability at launch. Apparently when you're a studio that makes billions of dollars, you still get swayed by Tim's exclusivity money.

3) Poor state of the port at launch, and overall hefty PC requirements to get it to run well.

4) It's 100% exactly the same game as it was on consoles, other than a lot of graphical improvements. GTA5's PC release came with higher traffic density, higher population density, a FULL first person mode, etc, and it went from the shitty console era to the PC. On the flipside, the game is exactly the same on PS4/Xbone vs PC, barring that it looks a lot better. So there's probably not a lot of people double dipping.

5) Red Dead Online is just boring. I started it up once, and after an hour and a half I was still in the fucking tutorial, in the desert, with (for whatever dumbass reason) this major sandstorm going on, so it was like playing the old Turok game where three feet away from you there was fog everywhere.

400K copies on EGS, probably double that on R* launcher, another few hundred thousand on Steam, and you've got 1.5 million copies sold. Not great, but I'm not really sure what they were expecting.
Dont forget the horrible horrible controls, which havent seen any improvement since GTA 5, actually have become worse in many ways.
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Re: RDR2 sales
Dec 27, 2019, 00:14
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Re: RDR2 sales Dec 27, 2019, 00:14
Dec 27, 2019, 00:14
 
Prez wrote on Dec 26, 2019, 15:45:
I wonder if the '2' in the title has anything to do with it. If people feel like they missed out on the first one and it isn't made clear that the first isn't a requirement for jumping on board with the second one (which I've read it isn't, but I had to search a bit to find that out) maybe that had a hand in the relatively low sales?

EDIT - as for the article's noting of the early discounts that didn't happen for GTAV, it is probably worth pointing out that the game is on sale on the Playstation store as well. I bought myself a PS4 recently to play Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War and noticed RDR2 on sale this week.

There is a very easy fix to get PC players to play. 1) Fix the performance/bug issues on PC. 2) 2 DLC's. First being from after the main story to the start of Red Dead 1. Second, add the first game directly to the RDR2.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 20:15
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Re: etc. Dec 26, 2019, 20:15
Dec 26, 2019, 20:15
 Cutter
 
Bullshit. RDR2 is awesome.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 18:33
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Re: etc. Dec 26, 2019, 18:33
Dec 26, 2019, 18:33
 
jacobvandy wrote on Dec 26, 2019, 12:07:
Steam stats show everyone who has the game running, period, unless they're not connected online at all. But I'm not sure if the game let's you do that, with its Rockstar launcher requirement.

I played GTA5 offline... unplugged the network cable as soon as I got in the game.

I don't participate in forced telemetry.

That said... I have pretty much zero interest in RDR2 with the same crap. And while I enjoyed GTA5... I probably won't get GTA6 because of the Rockstar launcher BS.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 16:34
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Re: etc. Dec 26, 2019, 16:34
Dec 26, 2019, 16:34
 
Hey save yourself $59.99 and go play Fortnite. This game Red Dead Redemption 2 PC is all about Online and Aimbots ! Cheap teleportation thru the game and world to get everyone rebooted to the windows 10 screen. Do not buy this game what so ever for the PC.
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Re: RDR2 sales
Dec 26, 2019, 15:45
Prez
 
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Re: RDR2 sales Dec 26, 2019, 15:45
Dec 26, 2019, 15:45
 Prez
 
I wonder if the '2' in the title has anything to do with it. If people feel like they missed out on the first one and it isn't made clear that the first isn't a requirement for jumping on board with the second one (which I've read it isn't, but I had to search a bit to find that out) maybe that had a hand in the relatively low sales?

EDIT - as for the article's noting of the early discounts that didn't happen for GTAV, it is probably worth pointing out that the game is on sale on the Playstation store as well. I bought myself a PS4 recently to play Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War and noticed RDR2 on sale this week.

This comment was edited on Dec 26, 2019, 16:02.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 13:42
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Dec 26, 2019, 13:42
 
6) rockstar's inability/denial they treat gamers like shit and they are bunch of dicks? Welcome
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 13:36
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Re: etc. Dec 26, 2019, 13:36
Dec 26, 2019, 13:36
 
WaltC wrote on Dec 26, 2019, 11:16:
I'm always amused when people try to dump on the sales numbers of a single-player game by looking at how many people are playing it online....;)

You can see how many people are playing single player games because of their online status with Steam. The number listed isn't just for online mode, it's for people playing the game in general.
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RDR2
Dec 26, 2019, 13:22
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RDR2 Dec 26, 2019, 13:22
Dec 26, 2019, 13:22
 
I can see a lot of reasons why it's not super popular on PC.

1) A YEAR delay between console and PC versions, with Rockstar playing their pathetic refusing to acknowledge it game.

2) Weird EGS/Rockstar Launcher only availability at launch. Apparently when you're a studio that makes billions of dollars, you still get swayed by Tim's exclusivity money.

3) Poor state of the port at launch, and overall hefty PC requirements to get it to run well.

4) It's 100% exactly the same game as it was on consoles, other than a lot of graphical improvements. GTA5's PC release came with higher traffic density, higher population density, a FULL first person mode, etc, and it went from the shitty console era to the PC. On the flipside, the game is exactly the same on PS4/Xbone vs PC, barring that it looks a lot better. So there's probably not a lot of people double dipping.

5) Red Dead Online is just boring. I started it up once, and after an hour and a half I was still in the fucking tutorial, in the desert, with (for whatever dumbass reason) this major sandstorm going on, so it was like playing the old Turok game where three feet away from you there was fog everywhere.

400K copies on EGS, probably double that on R* launcher, another few hundred thousand on Steam, and you've got 1.5 million copies sold. Not great, but I'm not really sure what they were expecting.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 12:07
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Dec 26, 2019, 12:07
 
Steam stats show everyone who has the game running, period, unless they're not connected online at all. But I'm not sure if the game let's you do that, with its Rockstar launcher requirement.

It is probably still unfair to compare it to GTA, though. RDR is a great series, but it isn't on that level of pop culture juggernaut, and this is its first release on PC.
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Re: etc.
Dec 26, 2019, 11:16
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Dec 26, 2019, 11:16
 
RDR2 PC is a fantastic single-player experience--the online portion is not the main focus of the game, and as such is very weak. I'm always amused when people try to dump on the sales numbers of a single-player game by looking at how many people are playing it online....;)
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