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22. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 8, 2019, 21:25 Razumen
 
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 23:15:
Cutter wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:32:
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:02:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
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Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.

So you're a pedophile and okay with people acknowledging that fact, right?
I always find it funny how Canadians think they understand how freedom of speech works in the US. Here's a tip, it's nothing like Canada.I'm a dual citizen and have lived in both countries.

Apparently you don't either, because false statements of fact that harm the reputation of an individual or business, aren't protected under Constitutional Free Speech provisions.
 
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21. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 14:46 Mr. Tact
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 7, 2019, 14:44:
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 7, 2019, 09:49:
Prez wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 21:31:
I'm okay with the verdict myself. The amount of damages asked for was ludicrous.
They could have said he was guilty but awarded a far more reasonable amount, say a couple of million at most. Which as far as the money is concerned would mean essentially nothing to Musk, but on the other hand would tie a conviction around his neck. That would have been a pleasing result in my opinion. Oh well....
Was it a criminal case, or a civil one?
I assume it was a civil action. So, perhaps "conviction" wasn't the correct word, but frankly Musk isn't worth the effort necessary to lookup the correct one.
 



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20. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 14:44 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 7, 2019, 09:49:
Prez wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 21:31:
I'm okay with the verdict myself. The amount of damages asked for was ludicrous.
They could have said he was guilty but awarded a far more reasonable amount, say a couple of million at most. Which as far as the money is concerned would mean essentially nothing to Musk, but on the other hand would tie a conviction around his neck. That would have been a pleasing result in my opinion. Oh well....

Was it a criminal case, or a civil one?
 
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19. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 13:39 Red886
 
imagine if the guy won the defamation suit. Next thing would be getting sued for posting 'y r u gey' memes

 
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18. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 10:56 Sacrifex
 
So, not just a pedophile, but one that needs two first world countries worth of children? Come on Cutter, give some respect where it's due.  
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17. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 09:56 Mr. Tact
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 7, 2019, 07:07:
I wonder if that's like the difference in meaning of the word "cunt" in the US and the UK.
Interesting. I had no idea the word was less gendered in the UK and Australia.
 



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16. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 09:49 Mr. Tact
 
Prez wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 21:31:
I'm okay with the verdict myself. The amount of damages asked for was ludicrous.
They could have said he was guilty but awarded a far more reasonable amount, say a couple of million at most. Which as far as the money is concerned would mean essentially nothing to Musk, but on the other hand would tie a conviction around his neck. That would have been a pleasing result in my opinion. Oh well....
 



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15. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 08:00 Burrito of Peace
 
So pedo guy is upset that pedo guy lost his lawsuit about being called pedo guy with, or without, evidence that he is, in fact, a pedo guy. Now, the question is, will this be a precedence where you can call any guy pedo guy or, rather, that this ruling solely applies to pedo guy being called pedo guy.

In any event, I wonder if pedo guy is going to appeal his status as pedo guy or will he simply accept being pedo guy until the end of his days.

At any rate...pedo guy.


pedo. guy.
 
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14. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 07:07 jdreyer
 
"Mr Musk told the court this week the phrase "pedo guy" was common in South Africa, where he grew up."

I wonder if that's like the difference in meaning of the word "cunt" in the US and the UK.
 
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13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 06:27 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:58:
Cutter wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:32:
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:02:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
The best -lawyers- liars money can buy.
Disgusting Applies to both links

Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.


So you're a pedophile and okay with people acknowledging that fact, right?

So because you just called him a pedophile do you need to pay him $190 million?

Yes, but the claimed damages have nothing to do with what the jury found. Their options weren't "this is fine" or "200 million." It could have been "Musk was wrong, but only $5 million wrong."

That guy is such an asshole, and now we can probably legally call him a pedophile.
 



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12. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 02:42 Prez
 
I'm no fan of Musk by any means - like most billionaire visionaries he's an unstable weirdo - but I had a hard time sympathizing with the "pedo guy" from the start because he was very publicly an asshole to Musk and that just wasn't necessary, whether Musk's offer to help was just a publicity stunt or not. Since this whole sordid mess started Musk has been the one who has looked like an ass, not "pedo guy", so there was no real evidence to be brought forth that showed he was a "victim" of anything other than a childish insult given in a childish argument that he started.  
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11. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 01:58 VaranDragon
 
Maybe there was some truth to the statements? Next up. Diver brought up on Pedo charges...lol  
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10. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2019, 00:46 NKD
 
That's surprising. I thought they'd be able to play on the jury's emotions a bit more, but it seems like it backfired. The jury said they felt like they were focusing too much on emotions and not evidence. (Presumably evidence of the harm caused?)

That said, these cases are always difficult for the person filing suit to win in the US.
 
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9. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 23:15 BIGtrouble77
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:32:
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:02:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
The best -lawyers- liars money can buy.
Disgusting Applies to both links

Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.

So you're a pedophile and okay with people acknowledging that fact, right?
I always find it funny how Canadians think they understand how freedom of speech works in the US. Here's a tip, it's nothing like Canada.I'm a dual citizen and have lived in both countries.
 
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8. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 23:14 shinchan0s
 
Elon Musk definitely called the diver a pedophile (Musk told Buzzfeed that he's a child rapist who married a 12 year old), but it's hard to find that there were any damages.

Anyway, the diver's a hero. Musk is just another rich asshole.
 
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7. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 22:58 Prez
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:32:
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:02:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
The best -lawyers- liars money can buy.
Disgusting Applies to both links

Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.

So you're a pedophile and okay with people acknowledging that fact, right?

So because you just called him a pedophile do you need to pay him $190 million?
 
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6. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 22:32 Cutter
 
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 22:02:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
The best -lawyers- liars money can buy.
Disgusting Applies to both links

Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.

So you're a pedophile and okay with people acknowledging that fact, right?
 
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5. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 22:02 BIGtrouble77
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2019, 19:59:
The best -lawyers- liars money can buy.
Disgusting Applies to both links

Are you serious? The only person defamed by the comments was Musk himself so there's no damages to collect. Being an idiot and saying something dumb doesn't mean the "victim" is entitled to $200m.
 
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4. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 21:31 Prez
 
I'm okay with the verdict myself. The amount of damages asked for was ludicrous.  
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3. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2019, 20:15 Creston
 
Dafuq??????????????????????????????????

US juries to people of the world: "If you're rich, feel free to slander whomever you want, we got your back."

 
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