Steam Bans Almost 1000 Titles [Nov 26, 2019, 11:19 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
PCGamesN reports, by
way of
Reddit user thomasthe1st, that Valve has banned almost 1000 titles from
Steam, pointing the way to a
Banned Apps
Tracker on a Steam Tracking Website for details on the removals.
PC Gamer has a follow up on this with more details on what happened:
Shortly after our story went up, developer Alexandra Frock noted on Twitter that "a good chunk" of the removed games were linked to a single Russian publisher, Dagestan Technology, that appeared to be operating under a large number of different names. Selecting "related apps" for individual listings of banned games reveals how they're connected: Sly Pigs, for instance, is five steps removed from Running Sausage, but only two from BattleStar Mazay.
It's a bit like a Steam version of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon: Some of the connections in the "related games" lists aren't immediately obvious, but the steps do lead from one point to the next, and Frock appears to be onto something. A cached version of the Dagestan Technology Steam Curator page lists 48 games and 4 DLCs, but the live page is now empty.
Valve didn't reveal any specifics on involved companies or their transgressions, but it did indirectly confirm that Dagestan wasn't the only publisher involved, saying that the removals were the result of bad behavior on the part of multiple publishers. "We recently discovered a handful of partners that were abusing some Steamworks tools," a rep explained. "We emailed all the affected partners."
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jdreyer wrote on Nov 27, 2019, 02:15:Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 14:57:Problem is that you could never get anyone at Valve to roll their desks over to the "Game Approval Corner" and do the actual work.
Frankly, it should be more than $100....just to submit it for review. That $100 pays for a few hours of time for an employee to vet the dev and app. Couple that process with a clear set of guidelines that allow *any* submission to be removed at *any* time and they'd probably be OK. That would keep people from patching in spyware after the initial acceptance.
Not the way Valve is setup as a company that is true. But you can always do a sister-company with proper work rules....
Hah, knew I'd strike a nerve somewhere here. Funny, I didn't recall saying I felt fakes rapes and murders were oscar worthy. But lash out as you will, apparently you feel very defensive about something.
So free will infringement is your dividing line between what is ok or not? Great, I'm sure that makes drug dealers, pimps, and creepy old guys who marry 12 year olds feel very accepted. Now tell me THAT'S not mentally sick.
So free will infringement is your dividing line between what is ok or not? Great, I'm sure that makes drug dealers, pimps, and creepy old guys who marry 12 year olds feel very accepted. Now tell me THAT'S not mentally sick.
Drath71 wrote on Nov 27, 2019, 09:47:
Great. Now...about all of the games that have nudity and sexual content and state that "all characters are 18+" but the characters all look about 12. These are just games for pedophiles, and need to be banned.
Typical US puritanism and double standards.
-Fake rapes and murders in games, books, tv series and movies = Oscar/Award worthy
-Consensual underage fake sex in games, books, tv series and movies = THINK OF THE CHILDREN YOU SICKO!
Not only no one gets harmed in all the above cases, it's NOT REAL, no one's free will is infringed, but even worse, rapes and murders are depictions of free will infringements wherehas consensual sex ( even if underage ), is not.
That kind of double standard is typical of a cultist taboo/dogma mindset. That's US CULT-ure for you and THAT is very mentally sick indeed.
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I despise any kind of free will infringement, that includes actual sexual abuse, be it on an adult or a minor.
Great. Now...about all of the games that have nudity and sexual content and state that "all characters are 18+" but the characters all look about 12. These are just games for pedophiles, and need to be banned.
jdreyer wrote on Nov 27, 2019, 02:12:$100 as a barrier to entry is too low. Scumbags are gonna have it in their back pocket. Steam should do more to curate their catalog and keep out the scammers who asset flip etc.RedEye9 wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:38:Huh, I could have sworn that they got rid of it at one point.jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:22:https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 11:35:Yeah, the old $100 application fee should be brought back, for example. If a Dev is throwing 1000 games at the wall, having to pay $100K puts a damper on that.
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
When did it go away.
Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 14:57:Problem is that you could never get anyone at Valve to roll their desks over to the "Game Approval Corner" and do the actual work.
Frankly, it should be more than $100....just to submit it for review. That $100 pays for a few hours of time for an employee to vet the dev and app. Couple that process with a clear set of guidelines that allow *any* submission to be removed at *any* time and they'd probably be OK. That would keep people from patching in spyware after the initial acceptance.
"Even after you've had the COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wash hands, watch distance and wear a mask because you can still transmit the virus even though you're not going to get sick." - NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:38:Huh, I could have sworn that they got rid of it at one point.jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:22:https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 11:35:Yeah, the old $100 application fee should be brought back, for example. If a Dev is throwing 1000 games at the wall, having to pay $100K puts a damper on that.
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
When did it go away.
"Even after you've had the COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wash hands, watch distance and wear a mask because you can still transmit the virus even though you're not going to get sick." - NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins
Overon wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 20:24:
1,000 down and tens of thousands of shovelware shit to go.
Nailed it
1,000 down and tens of thousands of shovelware shit to go.
Shady Russian shit as usual. I like them better when they are squatting next to shitty cars and drinking vodka.
Oh, those Russians.
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:38:jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:22:https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 11:35:Yeah, the old $100 application fee should be brought back, for example. If a Dev is throwing 1000 games at the wall, having to pay $100K puts a damper on that.
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
When did it go away.
Direct submissions have nothing to do with Publisher submissions
Frankly, it should be more than $100....just to submit it for review. That $100 pays for a few hours of time for an employee to vet the dev and app. Couple that process with a clear set of guidelines that allow *any* submission to be removed at *any* time and they'd probably be OK. That would keep people from patching in spyware after the initial acceptance.
They should have never made it on in the first place. Now Valve is finally waking up to the fact that Steam is an actual business and they need to start treating as such...if it's to survive. It seems they're finally getting the kick in their complacency they need.
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Good riddance.
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jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 12:22:https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 11:35:Yeah, the old $100 application fee should be brought back, for example. If a Dev is throwing 1000 games at the wall, having to pay $100K puts a damper on that.
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
When did it go away.
I'm guessing there are plenty more which should be axed....
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
Primalchrome wrote on Nov 26, 2019, 11:35:Yeah, the old $100 application fee should be brought back, for example. If a Dev is throwing 1000 games at the wall, having to pay $100K puts a damper on that.
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
"Even after you've had the COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wash hands, watch distance and wear a mask because you can still transmit the virus even though you're not going to get sick." - NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins
I think this proves that the 'taking any comers' approach does not work. They need to go back to qualifying anything listed. It sucks that so many shitheels out there take advantage of a program meant to help Indie devs get exposure.
Good stuff, clean up all of the shovelware junk and spam.
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