I don’t think Google is going to give up on Stadia that quickly — they’re building multiple game studios as we speak — but it was always asinine to think they could sell games at full price on this thing. Need to pivot, even if it means losing some of the biggest AAA games
Simon Says wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 18:41:The energy used is your line in the sand?
The utter wasted electricity on this data traffic + wasted energy on the infrastructure overhead. As if data centers weren't energy hogs enough already.
Playing games locally is greener ( or at least, less wasteful ), fuck'em.
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 16:14:chickenboo wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 14:02:It's obvious that Google looks at Stadia the same way they look at Youtube... it's just a vessel for consuming media while running deep learning algorithms around our behaviors. Once these companies own the channels to play games, they will have a bigger influence in how and what games will be made- and they will be made to manipulate us. That's a terrible future that will pretty much ensure that I won't be playing AAA games.
Agreed, despite all the corporate white-washing about enabling new generations of non-console-owning yet-to-be-gamers, a cynical take could certainly see Google's move as an attempt at monopolizing the place where people play games, just as YouTube is the defacto place where people watch online videos.
DrSquick wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 17:03:price checks outCreston wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 12:59:
So to save yourself from having to download 105 GB for RDR2, you now get to download ~ 800GB to play it all the way through in 4K, at lesser visuals and with worse controls. And you pay the same price for the privilege.
Sounds great?
Stadia better really quickly ditch that whole Pay Full Price idea of theirs, or they're dead in the water by the time Xcloud hits.
(And it's Google, they could easily just throw 10 billion at this, buy every game for an entire year and put them on their subscription service as exclusives. We've already seen that publishers are totally on board with the whole exclusives idea.)
I have an awesome idea! We will pre-cache those graphics assets on the user's computers so they only need to download them once. Then, to reduce latency, we will have the client's PC do the rendering! Then, instead of paying $10/month, users can pre-pay for five years and we will give them that hardware for free! I call it the HomeCloud (trademark pending).
Google, I'm willing to sell my cutting-edge idea for one biiiiilion dollars!
Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 12:59:
So to save yourself from having to download 105 GB for RDR2, you now get to download ~ 800GB to play it all the way through in 4K, at lesser visuals and with worse controls. And you pay the same price for the privilege.
Sounds great?
Stadia better really quickly ditch that whole Pay Full Price idea of theirs, or they're dead in the water by the time Xcloud hits.
(And it's Google, they could easily just throw 10 billion at this, buy every game for an entire year and put them on their subscription service as exclusives. We've already seen that publishers are totally on board with the whole exclusives idea.)
chickenboo wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 14:02:It's obvious that Google looks at Stadia the same way they look at Youtube... it's just a vessel for consuming media while running deep learning algorithms around our behaviors. Once these companies own the channels to play games, they will have a bigger influence in how and what games will be made- and they will be made to manipulate us. That's a terrible future that will pretty much ensure that I won't be playing AAA games.mxmissile wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 13:16:BIGtrouble77 wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 12:56:
"Need to pivot, even if it means losing some of the biggest AAA games"
The only benefit I see with this service is the ability to play AAA games on a Chromebook. Why would I use this service for indie games that could run on a Samsung toaster? The qhole idea of streaming games can't die fast enough. It's just a play to hold the gaming industry hostage to a select few companies acting in bad faith.
Huge +1, Like or whatever for this.
Agreed, despite all the corporate white-washing about enabling new generations of non-console-owning yet-to-be-gamers, a cynical take could certainly see Google's move as an attempt at monopolizing the place where people play games, just as YouTube is the defacto place where people watch online videos.
mxmissile wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 13:16:BIGtrouble77 wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 12:56:
"Need to pivot, even if it means losing some of the biggest AAA games"
The only benefit I see with this service is the ability to play AAA games on a Chromebook. Why would I use this service for indie games that could run on a Samsung toaster? The qhole idea of streaming games can't die fast enough. It's just a play to hold the gaming industry hostage to a select few companies acting in bad faith.
Huge +1, Like or whatever for this.
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Nov 20, 2019, 12:56:
"Need to pivot, even if it means losing some of the biggest AAA games"
The only benefit I see with this service is the ability to play AAA games on a Chromebook. Why would I use this service for indie games that could run on a Samsung toaster? The qhole idea of streaming games can't die fast enough. It's just a play to hold the gaming industry hostage to a select few companies acting in bad faith.