Releasing a sci-fi movie tie-in game within a few days of an apparently pretty decent Star Wars game riding the high of a new TV series and upcoming movie...

ouch

I knew, somehow, that he'd be back.

A number of the Steam reviews are name-checking Terminator: Future Shock and Terminator: Skynet so if you appreciated those it might be worth a closer look.

This came out of nowhere. I had no idea a Terminator game was about to drop and then it just did. While it's by no means ground breaking, I also hear it's probably the best thing we could get to a Terminator game in the world of hardly any Terminator games. You'd think by now we would have had quite few FPS within the franchise because it seems made for it.

I wouldn't mind picking this up when it hits the bargain bin.

An 82 on MetaCritic from the Users Reviews and 86% on Steam. That's right around what Fallen Order and RDR2 is getting. So it is safe to conclude it is a good game and achieves what it set out to do. As one Steam user wrote, "Simply put, this is the best Terminator game ever made. OG Terminator fans owe it to themselves to play this."

I watched a review where the reviewer said that this game was made on a low budget and that it would be obvious but that it was also made by a team that obviously knows what was good about Terminator and brought that to the game. So don't expect an AAA product but a nice smaller game with some soul.

So don't expect an AAA product but a nice smaller game with some soul.

The trailer looks like a visual upgrade to the gameplay of those older games like Future Shock and Rampage.

It's a solid game. I have been enjoying playing it. No crashes, no janky animations for the most part.

It is decidedly a Terminator game set not long after the events of Judgement Day.

I'd recommend it if you like non-hyperactive shooting and running constantly. You can sneak your way to most objectives.

No BR mode, no sale.

This looks pretty cool. SP FPS games are rare, so I'll definitely pick this up at some point.

In other words, I'll be back.

That's I've got for now. Hasta la vista baby!

Burrito of Peace wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 15:47:
It is decidedly a Terminator game set not long after the events of Judgement Day.

I suppose in cosmic terms, 31 years is "not long after."

I'd recommend it if you like non-hyperactive shooting and running constantly. You can sneak your way to most objectives.

That's just what the Dr. ordered.

phorce phed wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 13:57:
A number of the Steam reviews are name-checking Terminator: Future Shock and Terminator: Skynet so if you appreciated those it might be worth a closer look.

I remember "Future Shock" back in the day and it was a damn good game. Is it exclusive to Steam?

Just checked, it's 3rd person and we play as naked Mackenzie Davis the whole game.

The gameplay is too basic, and boring. But I hope this will show that there is a market for a good Terminator game. They really need to give the license to a large and proven studio and let them do something more interesting than shooting lame robots that aren't from the movies the entire game.... they missed the mark between making the robots feel dangerous, but also not annoying or spongy.

The universe is perfect for a survival style game. While Future Shock has not aged well, at the time they marked the 2029 feeling.

E.g. A semi open world like MGS5 so you are part of a guerilla squad, raiding for supplies in your shelter, and then raiding tactical facilities to influence the overall war. And like MGS5 really allow for setting up the raids, because you don't have the fire power, so tactics are important.

Or give me a GTA style game where I'm the T800 and need to find targets, with out being discovered by the law.

Or an asymmetric multilayer game. 60 human resistance players vs 4 (human) AI commanders controlling the machines from an RTS view. This way people can play out those Kyle Reese battle scenes.

Is even settle for a Future Shock reskin (minus the maze like facilities and button hunts)

bigspender wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 17:18:

Or an asymmetric multiplayer game. 60 human resistance players vs 4 (human) AI commanders controlling the machines from an RTS view.

Independent of the Terminator IP, this kind of game would be so awesome.

20-60 FPS players, vs 2-4 human commanders running dozens or hundreds of bot players could be so awesome. Bandwidth and server issues would crop up, but there could be a really cool game in there. Quite a bit of playtesting would be needed to even approach being balanced, but it would be a unique, new(?) game.

Even the old Battlezone games weren't quite like that.

I read that if you launch it with a -vr switch it will run in a crude vr mode. The cutscenes don't work and the controls are wonky but apparently it does support it. Perhaps a modder can do something with it, like with Alien Isolation.

Acleacius wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 17:07:
Just checked, it's 3rd person and we play as naked Mackenzie Davis the whole game.

I'm sure that mod is coming.
Pun intended.

Why is there a checkpoint? If the answer is consoles, today's console have hard drives making the checkpoint system obsolete. So why do developers persist with checkpoints? Does it take too much development time to put in a save/load anywhere system?

Kxmode wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 19:27:
Why is there a checkpoint? If the answer is consoles, today's console have hard drives making the checkpoint system obsolete. So why do developers persist with checkpoints? Does it take too much development time to put in a save/load anywhere system?

Pacing and dealing with save-scumming in a simple and obvious (to the player) way. Some developers want players to replay scenarios/encounters "as intended" and not "from the instant before things went wrong", and designing and implementing systems for detecting when things "will go wrong" before they actually do is folly in most genres. It is, simply, a design decision.

Rilcon wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 20:34:

Kxmode wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 19:27:
Why is there a checkpoint? If the answer is consoles, today's console have hard drives making the checkpoint system obsolete. So why do developers persist with checkpoints? Does it take too much development time to put in a save/load anywhere system?

Pacing and dealing with save-scumming in a simple and obvious (to the player) way. Some developers want players to replay scenarios/encounters "as intended" and not "from the instant before things went wrong", and designing and implementing systems for detecting when things "will go wrong" before they actually do is folly in most genres. It is, simply, a design decision.

It's a flawed system in my opinion. How I choose to play a game is of no concern to the developers. If they want to tie my hands behind my back, then I have no qualms using a cheat to render their checkpoint system meaningless. Do they not realize cheats exist?

Kxmode wrote on Nov 17, 2019, 21:08:
How I choose to play a game is of no concern to the developers.

That's only true for an open world game. Otherwise, it IS the concern of the developers how they want the game and story to unfold/be played. You either like it or not.