CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 13:02:

Quinn wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 10:11:
Anyway, that's a surprisingly alright list. Feel free to continue bitching about everything I still wonder why you'd complain about RDR2. From what I've SEEENNNN that game looks fucking amazing and anything but boring. Again, can't wait for the 5th.

The RDR2 tumbleweed comment was just a shot from the hip drive-by troll comment for shits'n'giggles . But it's also based on an element of truth in so far as what seems to be a rather common opinion among gamers, i.e. that RDR2 is overhyped and kind of boring with a horrible control scheme to boot (on consoles!) which is a VERY, VERY bad and alarming omen for the PC UI and controls.

I generally consider R* way overrated. After a long wait I finally got GTA V earlier this year and played through the story mode. It was definitely a quite funny comedy, especially Trevor and Michael, but to me it was far from the Second Coming that some people are making it out to be.

Yeah, the world as a gamey version of LA is pretty cool but nothing except the story mode really interested me in the game. All the side activities and mini games left me cold. I can definitely see the appeal for console gaming, i.e. some dudes getting together for a few beers and trying to one up each other on the stunt jumps but I'm a single player guy and pretty goal-driven. Just fucking around a world like GTA V with no purpose isn't my cup of tea at all.

The game also had a horrible UI, crappy RSC implementation and shitty controls. I hated the helicopter and airplane controls and I don't think I could have ever finished the game w/o the PS4 controller that I never use except for situations when it is absolutely required. That situation came up when Michael joined the yoga class of his wife. All the mini games were sort of awkward with mouse and keyboard but the yoga game was (imo) impossible. I was only able to pass it with the controller.

I quite like the Western theme (the Call of Juarez games were great) so I'm sure I will check out RDR2 (GOTY?) one fine day but it's pretty low priority. So much other stuff to play first. The backlog is unreal.

I agree with the GTAV comment. However, the world would have felt way deader if I knew I couldn't do the things I wouldn't do. Think Mafia 2. Or Mafia 3 for that matter. Those games also have a huge and fairly detailed open world, but no such activities, which made those worlds feel like nothing more but a glorified albeit boring canvas.

Rockstar is famous for their controls, or infamous. The animation based control system feels unresponsive sometimes. They can make for hilarious situations though! There's RDR2 vids on YouTube where the game bugs out and I have really laughed my ass off at some of those.

Anyway, good to see there's more to you than a bitching troll ;D Who would have thought CJ_Parker had a backlog!

Nullity wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 13:40:

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 20:12:
Hellblade is a a work of art in some ways, and a bit of a camera fight in others. I enjoyed it, but it's extremely short and has almost no replayability.

I'd like to play Hellblade, but this is basically why I haven't yet. I knew it was short, has no/limited replayability, and given the fact that I already have a backlog that I can't see the end of anymore, it's never dropped to a price low enough that I felt it was worth buying.

Well, I have a ridiculous queue/backlog as well, but I jumped the queue to do Hellblade, precisely because it's so short. I'm working my way through Witcher 3 now, which looks like it'll take me 150-200 hours, but short games like Hellblade get installed, finished, and deleted by me as breaks from 'mega-games' regularly. I bought Hellblade on one of the %50 or so sales, I think, definitely worth the money.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 20:12:
Hellblade is a a work of art in some ways, and a bit of a camera fight in others. I enjoyed it, but it's extremely short and has almost no replayability.

I'd like to play Hellblade, but this is basically why I haven't yet. I knew it was short, has no/limited replayability, and given the fact that I already have a backlog that I can't see the end of anymore, it's never dropped to a price low enough that I felt it was worth buying.

Quinn wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 10:11:
Anyway, that's a surprisingly alright list. Feel free to continue bitching about everything I still wonder why you'd complain about RDR2. From what I've SEEENNNN that game looks fucking amazing and anything but boring. Again, can't wait for the 5th.

The RDR2 tumbleweed comment was just a shot from the hip drive-by troll comment for shits'n'giggles . But it's also based on an element of truth in so far as what seems to be a rather common opinion among gamers, i.e. that RDR2 is overhyped and kind of boring with a horrible control scheme to boot (on consoles!) which is a VERY, VERY bad and alarming omen for the PC UI and controls.

I generally consider R* way overrated. After a long wait I finally got GTA V earlier this year and played through the story mode. It was definitely a quite funny comedy, especially Trevor and Michael, but to me it was far from the Second Coming that some people are making it out to be.

Yeah, the world as a gamey version of LA is pretty cool but nothing except the story mode really interested me in the game. All the side activities and mini games left me cold. I can definitely see the appeal for console gaming, i.e. some dudes getting together for a few beers and trying to one up each other on the stunt jumps but I'm a single player guy and pretty goal-driven. Just fucking around a world like GTA V with no purpose isn't my cup of tea at all.

The game also had a horrible UI, crappy RSC implementation and shitty controls. I hated the helicopter and airplane controls and I don't think I could have ever finished the game w/o the PS4 controller that I never use except for situations when it is absolutely required. That situation came up when Michael joined the yoga class of his wife. All the mini games were sort of awkward with mouse and keyboard but the yoga game was (imo) impossible. I was only able to pass it with the controller.

I quite like the Western theme (the Call of Juarez games were great) so I'm sure I will check out RDR2 (GOTY?) one fine day but it's pretty low priority. So much other stuff to play first. The backlog is unreal.

Haha, yeah wicked good job there Kxmode!

Drayth wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 10:09:
He did.

What the fuck, I completely missed that somehow. Thanks lol... :\ Turns out I missed every freaking comment before Kxmode's fake list. I think I assumed there was no answer, which is why Kxmode made up a list

Anyway, that's a surprisingly alright list. Feel free to continue bitching about everything I still wonder why you'd complain about RDR2. From what I've SEEENNNN that game looks fucking amazing and anything but boring. Again, can't wait for the 5th.

He did.

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 08:58:

Kxmode wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 19:43:

Quinn wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:44:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:14:
150 gigs of epic tumbleweed boredom.

Could you post your top 10 favorite games of the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Parker's 10 favorite games are:

- Complaining
- Complaining II
- Complaining III
- Raging EX Plus Alpha
- Armchair Man
- Armchair Man: A Voice as Loud as a Whisper
- Criticizvania 1
- Criticizvania 3 (Criticizvania 2 was trash)
- Fretville
- World of Gripecraft

Haha not bad, dude, but you forgot my fav which is 'Troll of Duty'!

While Kxmode's comment was indeed funny, I'd still appreciate it if you give me your list, CJ_Parker. You are always bitching about everything and I honest-to-god wonder if you even like games, and if you do... I'm just really curious what your list looks like.

I'm not even trying to attack you, btw. You know my online presence long enough to know your pessimism doesn't bother me.

Kxmode wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 19:43:

Quinn wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:44:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:14:
150 gigs of epic tumbleweed boredom.

Could you post your top 10 favorite games of the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Parker's 10 favorite games are:

- Complaining
- Complaining II
- Complaining III
- Raging EX Plus Alpha
- Armchair Man
- Armchair Man: A Voice as Loud as a Whisper
- Criticizvania 1
- Criticizvania 3 (Criticizvania 2 was trash)
- Fretville
- World of Gripecraft

Haha not bad, dude, but you forgot my fav which is 'Troll of Duty'!

Yeah THAT Hellblade.

Actually more nuance that the entire game is a metaphor for psychosis came to light on a second replay. I caught more of the sub-surface meanings in the dialogue, etc..

With the HDR patch I have an excuse for a third play through somewhere up the road.

Drayth wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 18:58:
Hellblade was my fave of two years ago. Glad -someone- else played it. I can't convince anyone I know to try it. One work friend bought one of my old SSD's off me and I left my GOG copy of it on there. Six months later, still 'hasn't gotten around to it'.

If something like the GTAV redux mod gets made for RDR2, the total install size is going to be pretty hilariously off the charts.

Hellblade is a a work of art in some ways, and a bit of a camera fight in others. I enjoyed it, but it's extremely short and has almost no replayability.

Assuming you are talking about Hellblade:Senua's Sacrifice, and not some JRPG I don't know of.

More on topic: 100% chance I'll get RDR2 eventually, about 5-10% chance I buy it on or near release day.

*EDIT* Typos.

This comment was edited on Oct 9, 2019, 21:14.

Quinn wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:44:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:14:
150 gigs of epic tumbleweed boredom.

Could you post your top 10 favorite games of the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Parker's 10 favorite games are:

- Complaining
- Complaining II
- Complaining III
- Raging EX Plus Alpha
- Armchair Man
- Armchair Man: A Voice as Loud as a Whisper
- Criticizvania 1
- Criticizvania 3 (Criticizvania 2 was trash)
- Fretville
- World of Gripecraft

Hellblade was my fave of two years ago. Glad -someone- else played it. I can't convince anyone I know to try it. One work friend bought one of my old SSD's off me and I left my GOG copy of it on there. Six months later, still 'hasn't gotten around to it'.

If something like the GTAV redux mod gets made for RDR2, the total install size is going to be pretty hilariously off the charts.

Cram wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 15:10:

Creston wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 15:05:
Anyway, the system requirements seem very decent for what I would have imagined would be an absolute system killer of a game.

Do Rockstar allow for graphic mods? I never played GTAV for PC, but I think people have gone pretty nuts prettying that game up? I imagine there are people chewing at the bit to release stuff like that for RDR2 and turn it into a system killer. I hope so anyway.

There are a bunch of GTA 4 and 5 mods out there to make the game look "photorealistic". That said I'm not too optimistic for mod "support" in RDR2, don't think R* will make things any easier this time around.

JSP wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 14:08:
While this is a very reasonable and optimized requirement for such a visually spectacular game, I still wonder why RDR was never released on PC.

IIRC RDR was a massive hacky mess and everyone that worked on it wanted to die; I guess at some point someone did a cost estimate for what a "good enough" port would take to do considering all that and it didn't seem worth it vs focusing resources on the next GTA.

Huge shame, RDR was a pretty great game IMO. I still expect that they'll release its campaign as DLC for RDR2 at some point, the entire map (and more) is already there and it's smaller in scope than RDR2's campaign.

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:26:

Quinn wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:44:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:14:
150 gigs of epic tumbleweed boredom.

Could you post your top 10 favorite games of the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Sure, just off the top of my head and I'm not gonna put them in order (too hard choosing which ones go where):

1) Witcher series (especially 2 and 3)
2) Batman Arkham series
3) AssCreed Black Flag
4) Pillars of Eternity GOTY + Deadfire Obsidian Edition
5) Elite Dangerous
6) Divinity series
7) Dragon Age Origins GOTY (juuuuuhhhhhhssst within the decade ) + Inquisition GOTY was alright, too, 'cept the retarded Trespasser DLC
8) Mass Effect 2 + 3
9) Skyrim
10) Alpha Protocol
11) Wolfenstein New Order + Old Blood
12) Hellblade
13) DCS
14) Ghost Recon Wildlands
15) Far Cry 5 + New Dawn expansion

I don't believe you left QWOP off.

Cram wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:42:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:38:
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooope.

Could you post your top 10 Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooope games from the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooope. Your daily quota of top lists has been fulfilled. Please return tomorrow and insert another quarter for more pearls shit nuggets of wizdom.

Creston wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 18:14:

StingingVelvet wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 17:54:
I wish I "got" the love for Witcher 3. The story was great but I found the actual quests so boring. Just go to the marker on the map over and over. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for it.

Isn't "go to the marker on the map over and over" pretty much every RPG ever?

No? The best ones have deeper quest design than that. Again maybe I wasn't in the right mood and I only played 10ish hours, but to me it felt like an Assassin's Creed style interactive movie. It didn't have the quest design, choices, etc. of something like Fallout New Vegas, for example.

StingingVelvet wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 17:54:
I wish I "got" the love for Witcher 3. The story was great but I found the actual quests so boring. Just go to the marker on the map over and over. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for it.

Isn't "go to the marker on the map over and over" pretty much every RPG ever?

I wish I "got" the love for Witcher 3. The story was great but I found the actual quests so boring. Just go to the marker on the map over and over. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for it.

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:26:

Quinn wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:44:

CJ_Parker wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:14:
150 gigs of epic tumbleweed boredom.

Could you post your top 10 favorite games of the last decade here? Seriously, I wanna know.

Sure, just off the top of my head and I'm not gonna put them in order (too hard choosing which ones go where):

1) Witcher series (especially 2 and 3)
2) Batman Arkham series
3) AssCreed Black Flag
4) Pillars of Eternity GOTY + Deadfire Obsidian Edition
5) Elite Dangerous
6) Divinity series
7) Dragon Age Origins GOTY (juuuuuhhhhhhssst within the decade ) + Inquisition GOTY was alright, too, 'cept the retarded Trespasser DLC
8) Mass Effect 2 + 3
9) Skyrim
10) Alpha Protocol
11) Wolfenstein New Order + Old Blood
12) Hellblade
13) DCS
14) Ghost Recon Wildlands
15) Far Cry 5 + New Dawn expansion

The scary thing is that I have 8 of these in my own top 15...