Activision Blizzard Faces Hong Kong Backlash

Blizzard's ban of a Hearthstone champion for voicing support for Hong Kong protesters continues to generate backlash. Yesterday's report mentioned the hashtag #boycottblizzard was trending, and BBC News notes that some are following through on this, including Mark Kern, who tweets that he's cancelled his subscription to World of Warcraft, a game he helped create. They also report this may be affecting sales of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, citing a journalist's cancelled preorder, but add that such boycotts rarely gain enough traction to impact a company's bottom line. There's also a report on Boing Boing noting a Reddit scheme to punish Blizzard by flooding them with GDPR personal information requests, calling these "punishing" and "expensive." Finally, Eurogamer says that Mei from Overwatch is becoming a meme to support the Hong Kong protests. To quote her from the game, "Our world is worth fighting for."
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Oct 10, 2019, 22:06
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 12:28:
Razumen wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 00:36:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:43:
It could just be me, cause today is an insomnia day, but I don't give a shit about Hong Kong. China is a boorish dick. China has always been a boorish dick. Why is anyone surprised when they act like boorish dicks?

I'm going to assume you haven't been paying attention to the news and what's been happening in Hong Kong.

You assume incorrectly.

Obviously not because then you'd know that they're acting more boorish and dickish than usual, and wouldn't have made your initial comment.
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Razumen wrote on Oct 10, 2019, 00:36:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:43:
It could just be me, cause today is an insomnia day, but I don't give a shit about Hong Kong. China is a boorish dick. China has always been a boorish dick. Why is anyone surprised when they act like boorish dicks?

I'm going to assume you haven't been paying attention to the news and what's been happening in Hong Kong.

You assume incorrectly.
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Oct 10, 2019, 02:24
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Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:47:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:43:
It could just be me, cause today is an insomnia day, but I don't give a shit about Hong Kong. China is a boorish dick. China has always been a boorish dick. Why is anyone surprised when they act like boorish dicks?
We aren't. We are surprised/annoyed/disappointed US corporations are attempting to silence people who call the Chinese government "boorish dicks".

just watch the Southpark episode that got it banned in china

it will answer all of your questions
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Oct 10, 2019, 02:17
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Oct 10, 2019, 02:17
 
you know, the multi billion extremely profitable company could just build/expand existing games studios in China and have them copy/paste or make games specifically for Chinese audiences


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Oct 10, 2019, 00:36
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Oct 10, 2019, 00:36
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 13:43:
It could just be me, cause today is an insomnia day, but I don't give a shit about Hong Kong. China is a boorish dick. China has always been a boorish dick. Why is anyone surprised when they act like boorish dicks?

I'm going to assume you haven't been paying attention to the news and what's been happening in Hong Kong.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Oct 10, 2019, 00:34
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eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 11:19:
But you can not fault Activision for doing what companies do here, they are legally required to prevent any harm that comes to their investors.

This sounds like the myth that companies are legally required to maximize profits no matter what.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Oct 9, 2019, 23:38
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NKD wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 19:04:
The agreement the dude was operating under has one of those shitty catch-all things where if you say anything or do anything that could harm Blizzard's reputation in the eyes of literally anyone else, then they can do whatever they want to you. Politically "controversial" remarks on Blizzard's dime thru their stream pretty solidly qualifies.

He doesn't have much of a leg to stand on legally, but the PR mess is going to cost Blizzard.

Spoken by someone who clearly doesn't understand law at all. As, it was released, Blizzard's contract was very unspecific. And it would be difficult for them to even lay out those sorts of specifics from the outset. They'd have to account for ever manner of contingency, which is impossible. Beyond that, the basis of all contract law is that that both parties have something to gain from the contract. Any contract that is considered seriously unbalanced is considered an invalid contract.

I have personally been down this road on several occasions and this is why I have a better understanding of law than most other layman. I've sued and been sued. And when you get into that position you either just hand it over to a lawyer or make the attempt to understand what's going on yourself. I always choose the latter. It really isn't that difficult. Do you know what Law School is really comprised of? The Socratic Method. Question upon question upon question. How do you establish what's reasonable or warranted? What are reasonable or warranted damages? What type of contract is considered reasonable under the law. Contracts cannot be one-sided, period. If Blizzard had retained good enough contract lawyers they would have known this from the outset. You can't just say 'It's my way or the high way'. That doesn't fly in contract law.
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Oct 9, 2019, 22:18
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Oct 9, 2019, 22:18
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ventry wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 21:35:
Kxmode wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 19:38:
ventry wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 18:46:
Don't trust China. China is asshoe.

How long as China been as shoe?

LOL!!!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/97PHxjvtNTfU/

Oh. I regret clicking the link. #TheSunWillComeUpTomorrow
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Re: Activision Blizzard Faces Hong Kong Backlash
Oct 9, 2019, 21:35
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Oct 9, 2019, 21:35
 
Kxmode wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 19:38:
ventry wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 18:46:
Don't trust China. China is asshoe.

How long as China been as shoe?

LOL!!!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/97PHxjvtNTfU/
My prediction:
Joe Biden will come down with the Chinese Coof Coof so he won't have to debate Trump.
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Oct 9, 2019, 19:38
Kxmode
 
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Oct 9, 2019, 19:38
 Kxmode
 
ventry wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 18:46:
Don't trust China. China is asshoe.

How long as China been as shoe?
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Oct 9, 2019, 19:36
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Oct 9, 2019, 19:36
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 17:24:
NKD wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:19:
I like the idea of flooding them with GDPR requests. It's like spamming black faxes or bags of snail mail.
I have been review bombing diablo 1!!!
That'll show those shareholders.

I'm not sure they'd get the message on a 23-year-old game.
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Oct 9, 2019, 19:30
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Darks wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 12:31:
Hope the boycott can pick up steam

It might become a Epic Game Store exclusive first
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Oct 9, 2019, 19:04
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NKD
 
The agreement the dude was operating under has one of those shitty catch-all things where if you say anything or do anything that could harm Blizzard's reputation in the eyes of literally anyone else, then they can do whatever they want to you. Politically "controversial" remarks on Blizzard's dime thru their stream pretty solidly qualifies.

He doesn't have much of a leg to stand on legally, but the PR mess is going to cost Blizzard.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Oct 9, 2019, 18:59
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Cutter wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 17:18:
roguebanshee wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:05:
It wasn't a tweet, it was a statement made by a player during an official Hearthstone broadcast, and said player was under contract to not make potentially offensive statements for the duration of the tournament. Heck, the VoD of the series was even up on the official Hearthstone Youtube channel for a short while.

At which point Activision Blizzard likely got a strongly worded letter from either Tencent or a Chinese official.

Regardless, contract law is murky at best. The entire premise of law is predicated on what's considered "reasonable" - good luck defining that because no one has been to do it so far. At least as far as I've seen on this story I haven't seen anything - contractually - that would prohibit him from saying what he said. Just because Blizzard says that's the case doesn't make it so. And from the looks of it it will be determined in a court of law. And that being the case I'd be wagering dollars to donuts that the guy will win in this case. At any rate Blizzard has hurt themselves considerably more with their response and this will likely steamroll into something much larger. It was an entirely idiotic response on their part. Always let sleeping dogs lie unless you have no choice.



Good luck suing the guy for economic damage. You think the blowback over ejecting him hurt...
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Oct 9, 2019, 18:46
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Oct 9, 2019, 18:46
 
Don't trust China. China is asshoe.
My prediction:
Joe Biden will come down with the Chinese Coof Coof so he won't have to debate Trump.
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Oct 9, 2019, 17:24
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Oct 9, 2019, 17:24
 
NKD wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:19:
I like the idea of flooding them with GDPR requests. It's like spamming black faxes or bags of snail mail.
I have been review bombing diablo 1!!!
That'll show those shareholders.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Oct 9, 2019, 17:18
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Oct 9, 2019, 17:18
 Cutter
 
roguebanshee wrote on Oct 9, 2019, 16:05:
It wasn't a tweet, it was a statement made by a player during an official Hearthstone broadcast, and said player was under contract to not make potentially offensive statements for the duration of the tournament. Heck, the VoD of the series was even up on the official Hearthstone Youtube channel for a short while.

At which point Activision Blizzard likely got a strongly worded letter from either Tencent or a Chinese official.

Regardless, contract law is murky at best. The entire premise of law is predicated on what's considered "reasonable" - good luck defining that because no one has been to do it so far. At least as far as I've seen on this story I haven't seen anything - contractually - that would prohibit him from saying what he said. Just because Blizzard says that's the case doesn't make it so. And from the looks of it it will be determined in a court of law. And that being the case I'd be wagering dollars to donuts that the guy will win in this case. At any rate Blizzard has hurt themselves considerably more with their response and this will likely steamroll into something much larger. It was an entirely idiotic response on their part. Always let sleeping dogs lie unless you have no choice.

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Oct 9, 2019, 16:19
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Oct 9, 2019, 16:19
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I like the idea of flooding them with GDPR requests. It's like spamming black faxes or bags of snail mail.
Old man trouble back again
Fucking up my plans like oh no, oh no,
I'm back to the black again
Gettin fucked up again, oh no, oh no.
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Oct 9, 2019, 16:16
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I won't stop Overwatching... not for China, Taiwan, capitalism, or anyhing else! Evilgrin
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