Op Ed

Forbes India - Star Citizen: The most expensive video game ever made.
"Chris Roberts has spent seven years and raised nearly $300 million—most of it from average gamers—building Star Citizen. It's on pace to be the costliest video game ever made and—outside of cryptocurrency—the world's largest crowdfunded project. It's still not ready. It may never be."

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Re: Op Ed
Sep 24, 2019, 05:17
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Re: Op Ed Sep 24, 2019, 05:17
Sep 24, 2019, 05:17
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 24, 2019, 04:48:
Sepharo wrote on Sep 22, 2019, 12:26:
Kxmode wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 18:23:
But it's not pronounced Jesus but "Hey Zuez."

Kanye gets closest to the original pronunciation with yeezus.

note the 'j' in "hallelujah"

I know what hallelujah means, and it doesn't mean Kanye, Jesus, or the "original pronunciation" as you're alluding.

Just referring the j/i/y connection with Hebrew Greek and Latin.
Mentioned nothing about meaning. Chill.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 24, 2019, 04:48
Kxmode
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 24, 2019, 04:48
Sep 24, 2019, 04:48
 Kxmode
 
Sepharo wrote on Sep 22, 2019, 12:26:
Kxmode wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 18:23:
But it's not pronounced Jesus but "Hey Zuez."

Kanye gets closest to the original pronunciation with yeezus.

note the 'j' in "hallelujah"

I know what hallelujah means, and it doesn't mean Kanye, Jesus, or the "original pronunciation" as you're alluding.
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Re: Re: Op Ed
Sep 22, 2019, 12:26
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Re: Re: Op Ed Sep 22, 2019, 12:26
Sep 22, 2019, 12:26
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 18:23:
KS wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 08:39:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 17:40:
Creston wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.

Damn! Thanks, mate!

Fyi that is the Christ in Christopher. And remember that, next time someone looks oddly at Mexicans naming kids Jesus.

But it's not pronounced Jesus but "Hey Zuez."

Kanye gets closest to the original pronunciation with yeezus.

note the 'j' in "hallelujah"
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Re: Re: Op Ed
Sep 22, 2019, 02:53
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Re: Re: Op Ed Sep 22, 2019, 02:53
Sep 22, 2019, 02:53
 
So his wife is fuckin' crazy and he likes it?
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 21, 2019, 18:23
Kxmode
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 21, 2019, 18:23
Sep 21, 2019, 18:23
 Kxmode
 
KS wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 08:39:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 17:40:
Creston wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.

Damn! Thanks, mate!

Fyi that is the Christ in Christopher. And remember that, next time someone looks oddly at Mexicans naming kids Jesus.

But it's not pronounced Jesus but "Hey Zuez."
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times." - Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 21, 2019, 08:53
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Re: Op Ed Sep 21, 2019, 08:53
Sep 21, 2019, 08:53
 
  • KS wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 08:39:
    El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 17:40:
    Creston wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 13:46:
    El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
    Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

    Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.

    Damn! Thanks, mate!

    Fyi that is the Christ in Christopher. And remember that, next time someone looks oddly at Mexicans naming kids Jesus.
    jesustopher?
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 21, 2019, 08:39
KS
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Re: Op Ed Sep 21, 2019, 08:39
Sep 21, 2019, 08:39
KS
 
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 17:40:
Creston wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.

Damn! Thanks, mate!

Fyi that is the Christ in Christopher. And remember that, next time someone looks oddly at Mexicans naming kids Jesus.
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Re: Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 22:45
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Re: Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 22:45
Sep 20, 2019, 22:45
 
I don't think it makes sense to include Prey and DNF on that list. The released products have nothing from the original development cycles. Those games were stopped, scrapped, and restarted multiple times.

TF2 is similar but I bet it has a more coherent development lineage than Prey and DNF. I don't know much about SC2's development or the remaining titles with 9+ years.

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Re: Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 22:12
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Re: Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 22:12
Sep 20, 2019, 22:12
 
Kxmode wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 18:37:
"Chris Roberts has spent seven eight years

Development began in 2011. Chris spent a year and over a million dollars working with the Crytek folks to create the announcement trailer that debut at GDC Online in Austin in 2012.

That said, perspective is essential. Here is a list of the video games that spent a long time in development.

Half-Life 2: 1999-2004 (5 years)
Final Fantasy 12: 2000-2006 (6 years)
Resident Evil 4: 1999-2005 (6 years)
Deus Ex: 1994-2000 (6 years)
The Last Guardian: 2009-2015 (6 years)
L.A. Noire: 2004-2011 (7 years)
Aliens Colonial Marines: 2006-2013 (7 years)
Galleon: 1997-2004 (7 years)
Spore: 2000-2008 (8 years)
Star Citizen: 2011-2019 (8 years)
Too Human: 1999-2008 (9 years)
Team Fortress 2: 1998-2007 (9 years)
Final Fantasy 15: 2006-2016 (10 years)
Diablo 3: 2001-2012 (11 years)
Prey: 1995-2006 (11 years)
StarCraft 2: 2003-2015 (12 years)
Duke Nukem Forever: 1996-2011 (15 years)

Comparatively, TF2, D3, SC2, and FF15 took longer to publish.
It's a good point to remember that there are successful games that took longer to finish. I think one concern I have is that I can't see a path to completion for this game beyond the scope limited SQ 42.
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Re: Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 20:29
Cutter
 
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Sep 20, 2019, 20:29
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Kxmode wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 18:37:
Comparatively, TF2, D3, SC2, and FF15 took longer to publish.

That isn't true at all...because they were actually published. This scam will never come to fruition until the gravy train stops. Then, whatever hot mess they have will be unceremoniously dumped out on the suckers that paid for it so they can say they fulfilled their legal obligation to deliver. And then they will all disappear and the hot mess is all that will remain.
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Sep 20, 2019, 20:23
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Re: Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 20:23
Sep 20, 2019, 20:23
 
Seems like a gigantic missed opportunity for a title: "Star Citizen: The most expensive video game Never made."

The cult of maniacs paying for Star Citizen doesn't even seem to be really slowing down? Depressing.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 18:45
Kxmode
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 18:45
Sep 20, 2019, 18:45
 Kxmode
 
NKD wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 15:04:
Game-development-as-a-service

Early-Access-Game-Development-as-a-Service. FTFY.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 18:44
Kxmode
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 18:44
Sep 20, 2019, 18:44
 Kxmode
 
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Billy Graham: "Weeeelcooooome to the Star Citizen Church! And remember, oh you faithful people - the more you giveth, the closer you are to paradise! Don't keep that money - give it to your God Chris Roberts!"

"Don't know how? Heavens to betsy! We have all kinds of fancy new JPGs you can spend your seed money on and if you don't send us money, God will be extremely angry with you. Chris be praised! Tabernacle!"
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 18:37
Kxmode
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 18:37
Sep 20, 2019, 18:37
 Kxmode
 
"Chris Roberts has spent seven eight years

Development began in 2011. Chris spent a year and over a million dollars working with the Crytek folks to create the announcement trailer that debut at GDC Online in Austin in 2012.

That said, perspective is essential. Here is a list of the video games that spent a long time in development.

Half-Life 2: 1999-2004 (5 years)
Final Fantasy 12: 2000-2006 (6 years)
Resident Evil 4: 1999-2005 (6 years)
Deus Ex: 1994-2000 (6 years)
The Last Guardian: 2009-2015 (6 years)
L.A. Noire: 2004-2011 (7 years)
Aliens Colonial Marines: 2006-2013 (7 years)
Galleon: 1997-2004 (7 years)
Spore: 2000-2008 (8 years)
Star Citizen: 2011-2019 (8 years)
Too Human: 1999-2008 (9 years)
Team Fortress 2: 1998-2007 (9 years)
Final Fantasy 15: 2006-2016 (10 years)
Diablo 3: 2001-2012 (11 years)
Prey: 1995-2006 (11 years)
StarCraft 2: 2003-2015 (12 years)
Duke Nukem Forever: 1996-2011 (15 years)

Comparatively, TF2, D3, SC2, and FF15 took longer to publish.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times." - Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 17:40
El Pit
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 17:40
Sep 20, 2019, 17:40
 El Pit
 
Creston wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 13:46:
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.

Damn! Thanks, mate!
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 15:07
Cutter
 
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 15:07
Sep 20, 2019, 15:07
 Cutter
 
It's not the most expensive video game ever made because it would have to actually be made for that to be true.

I'm just curious about his obligations to his corporate backers. I'm immensely curious what sort of deals were struck for how much cash.

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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 15:04
NKD
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Sep 20, 2019, 15:04
NKD
 
Game-development-as-a-service
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
 
El Pit wrote on Sep 20, 2019, 12:31:
Don't keep that money - give it to your God ChrisT Roberts!"

Fixed that for you. Such a missed opportunity.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
Sep 20, 2019, 13:46
 
I just want SQ42 to come out.
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Re: Op Ed
Sep 20, 2019, 12:51
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Re: Op Ed Sep 20, 2019, 12:51
Sep 20, 2019, 12:51
 
It has been years since SC's 100gb install has been worth the HD real estate. I'll revisit when there's some semblance of a game, but it's not worthy of the space at the moment.
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