Nidian wrote on Sep 2, 2019, 00:44:
Icewind wrote on Sep 1, 2019, 23:47:
anonymous anonymous wrote on Sep 1, 2019, 23:08:
Didn't Zoe work on some game with Chuck Tingle? Did they finally release it?
Even better, Zoe stole the money, spent it all on a vacation, did zero work on the game, and Chuck now vehemently denies he was ever a part of the game and claims he never accepted anything.
She's a liar, a cheat, a manipulator, and a talent-less troll that blackmails others for money. That's her job.
Anyone defending her is clueless.
This right here... this is that hurdle that my mind just cannot jump over. Why anyone would even consider giving Zoe the time of day is beyond me. She's a pathological manipulative lying sociopath that keeps on crying wolf just for the hell of it or to keep herself relevant. And like the boy in the story... she reaps what she sows with me at least as I won't believe a single solitary word that comes out of her mouth.
If she is a con artist it dosn’t matter. She didn’t kill anyone. Dude killed himself. If Zoe kills herself over these allegations would that make GG as
murderous as #metoo? No. I’ve come close to guilt motivated suicide, I’ve lost friends to it as well. That’s on those that choose the easy way out, not on the accusers, even when it’s false (which I’ve also lost people to). Bullying and abuse should and is outlawed, calling out assholes isn’t and shouldn’t be.
Alex felt the same way. You can’t weaponise his death against your ideological enemies when he himself denounced such behaviour. His chickens came home to roost, and despite support and professional help he wasn’t able to cope. It’s an absolute tragedy, in an ideal world we would all have the strength to deal with mental illness and the consequences of our actions, even if those actions were long forgotten by the perpetrator.
It’s beyond pathetic how the personal responsibility and snowflake slur crowd seem to get selective about their principles based on the identity of any given victim or abuser.
If anyone is worried about past actions coming back to haunt them bring them up with a therapist and find a way forward. If you live in a libertarian nightmare or otherwise failed state where that is impossible to afford in your current situation I’m super sorry and hope you find something.