Bumpy wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 11:24:

Slick wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 22:07:
Gears 1 was really cool, and an amazing showcase for the tech of it's time. Seems like's fallen by the wayside considerably... same cookie-cutter gameplay, and same UE3-looking graphics. No offense to fans.

As I watched the trailer, I was thinking the same exact thing.

Gears did look great at the time. However what you are talking about now is tainted by rose tinted glasses. Gears 1, by more modern standards, is kind of washed out and very low res as far as textures go.

If you think shots of UE4 and addons with UHD textures look like the game from 13 years ago, you may want to book an appointment with your preferred optometrist.

VoodooV wrote on Aug 12, 2019, 10:15:

Bumpy wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 11:24:

Slick wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 22:07:
Gears 1 was really cool, and an amazing showcase for the tech of it's time. Seems like's fallen by the wayside considerably... same cookie-cutter gameplay, and same UE3-looking graphics. No offense to fans.

As I watched the trailer, I was thinking the same exact thing.

Yeah I remember Gears 1 was the game that got me to tolerate FPS on a console controller. Prior to that I was mouse or GTFO

It was a conspicuous design decision. Back then, not many people were used to dual-stick FPS controls. So they made a game that was dual-stick, but only really had you use one at a time. Yes, you could shoot while you ran, but it was highly inaccurate. Instead, the game was designed for you to run from cover to cover. You'd use one stick while running, and the other while shooting, and rarely be using both together. It was a great way to train people on how to use a controller.

13 years later, pretty much anyone that would play a console game is pretty used to using both together, so it feels dated to go back to that.

Bumpy wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 11:24:

Slick wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 22:07:
Gears 1 was really cool, and an amazing showcase for the tech of it's time. Seems like's fallen by the wayside considerably... same cookie-cutter gameplay, and same UE3-looking graphics. No offense to fans.

As I watched the trailer, I was thinking the same exact thing.

Yeah I remember Gears 1 was the game that got me to tolerate FPS on a console controller. Prior to that I was mouse or GTFO

Rhett wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 08:55:

MattyC wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 01:48:

Rhett wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 21:19:
A lot of PC owners haven't been able to play for over a year

Explain.

Horde and co-op are really the only reasons I love Gears, but they regularly deliver on those fronts and as long as I stick with those two modes I have fun. At any rate, what issues are you having? Like you can't play at all? I haven't seen or heard anything quite like that.

It's typically referred to as the "black screen crash" or "black screen after logo". There's lots of supposed fixes, but myself and two other people I know both tried everything we could find and couldn't get it working, and it's been a problem for a long time. Devs acknowledged it, said they were working with NVidia, and then nothing changed and it was never brought up again.

Some of the things you even have to do to "fix" it are absurd, like start downloading another app or game from the Microsoft store, or redownload the game (it's 120GB! and there's no 'verify' option like on Steam or other launchers). I haven't personally been able to play since the first year the game launched. People with 10-series cards apparently have even more problems, though I have a 970.

I have a 1060 and I haven't had any problems with it *knocks on wood*, but that stinks and is pathetic on the customer service front. At least 2k sent me an email when their piracy protection maleware turned my day 1 physical copy of BioShock into a very expensive coaster. They didn't just leave me wondering for a year.

I have had an issue with the MS store being stupid though. I needed to delete, redownload, and reinstall Forza Horizon 4 twice. Prior to that third install (third times the charm? ) it would just load a JPG of the game's art. I couldn't make that up, if you Google around you'll find it wasn't even that uncommon.

Yeah, they can shove this console garbage right up their collective asses. MS could have been decent people and released this entire series on PC all these years ago but instead they chose to withhold the sequels from PC gamers hoping we'd be retarded enough to buy one of their shitty little toy boxes. Well, keep hoping, assholes. And keep your console garbage. Too little, too late.

Never played any of these since epic abandoned the Unreal Universe to make these for console gamers. This was when cliffyb lied and said it was too hard to make a scripted COOP game for Unreal, then made this scripted COOP game for consoles. After this whole egs shitfest, it's clear sweeney was in on the decision too.

I will not be playing this. After Gears 4 stopped working on my PC and the devs refused to fix it I will NOT be wasting money on their producst anymore. Too many other good games to play.

Slick wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 22:07:
Gears 1 was really cool, and an amazing showcase for the tech of it's time. Seems like's fallen by the wayside considerably... same cookie-cutter gameplay, and same UE3-looking graphics. No offense to fans.

As I watched the trailer, I was thinking the same exact thing.

MattyC wrote on Aug 10, 2019, 01:48:

Rhett wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 21:19:
A lot of PC owners haven't been able to play for over a year

Explain.

Horde and co-op are really the only reasons I love Gears, but they regularly deliver on those fronts and as long as I stick with those two modes I have fun. At any rate, what issues are you having? Like you can't play at all? I haven't seen or heard anything quite like that.

It's typically referred to as the "black screen crash" or "black screen after logo". There's lots of supposed fixes, but myself and two other people I know both tried everything we could find and couldn't get it working, and it's been a problem for a long time. Devs acknowledged it, said they were working with NVidia, and then nothing changed and it was never brought up again.

Some of the things you even have to do to "fix" it are absurd, like start downloading another app or game from the Microsoft store, or redownload the game (it's 120GB! and there's no 'verify' option like on Steam or other launchers). I haven't personally been able to play since the first year the game launched. People with 10-series cards apparently have even more problems, though I have a 970.

Rhett wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 21:19:
Better be supported better than Gears 4! A lot of PC owners haven't been able to play for over a year, being completely ignored by the devs. Some issue came up after a certain Nvidia driver, forcing you to use an ancient driver just to play.

That sucks. Sounds like a shitty GPU driver team not a developer issue though. If it was a game patch that broke it I'd belive differently. Still sucks. I'll try not to get conspirational about Nvidia sabotaging/neglecting an awesome looking/running AMD optimised game though it is tempting!

Gears 4 is really good, on both platforms, and I trust the new GoW devs more than 343. Though 4 shares the same MT nonsense as Halo 5, which isn't as good a game. Big hopes for this one. It will move a lot of gamepass subs if it's as awesome as it looks.

I mean sure it's the same gameplay with tweaks, though horde is the original and best horde mode and I will play that for another 30-50 hours easily. I grew up in a time you could slap some levels on a game and call it a sequel (Doom2) and we all fucking loved it so when done well I'm ok with that.

Woohoo! Good!

Oh, wait. I don't care.

Rhett wrote on Aug 9, 2019, 21:19:
A lot of PC owners haven't been able to play for over a year

Explain.

Horde and co-op are really the only reasons I love Gears, but they regularly deliver on those fronts and as long as I stick with those two modes I have fun. At any rate, what issues are you having? Like you can't play at all? I haven't seen or heard anything quite like that.

Gears 1 was really cool, and an amazing showcase for the tech of it's time. Seems like's fallen by the wayside considerably... same cookie-cutter gameplay, and same UE3-looking graphics. No offense to fans.

Huge gears fan, but I was so damn disappointed that the hard locks on many Geforce 1060/1070 cards remain to this day. Devs keep promosing to fix it but I think they're just stalling.

Better be supported better than Gears 4! A lot of PC owners haven't been able to play for over a year, being completely ignored by the devs. Some issue came up after a certain Nvidia driver, forcing you to use an ancient driver just to play.

"Gone Gold" That's a blast from the past. Thanks Blue.

"Xbox and Windows 10 and Steam"

Must suck for epic when the 3rd biggest IP they created (1st being fortnite, 2nd unreal engine )not Even ON the EGS