Out of the Blue

It was 50 years ago today that Neil Armstrong became the first human to set foot on the moon, making his famed "one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind." TIL that we left more than footprints and flags behind, as this article notes almost 200 tonnes (220 tons) of things we've sent to the moon remain there to this day. This includes five Saturn V rocket stages; dozens of U.S. and Soviet probes; some robots; a bunch of lunar rovers; two golf balls; and 96 bags for poo, urine, and vomit the article notes that scientists "are keen to get their hands on should the opportunity arise." Sounds like we need to send up one of those crews in orange vests to do some roadside cleanup. But either way, we should send astronauts back there and beyond. Hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later.

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Blue wrote on Jul 20, 2019, 14:44:
JZ Temple wrote on Jul 20, 2019, 14:23:
But either way, we should send astronauts back there and beyond. Hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later.

I don't know, I'd really like to spend those billions on things like climate change, health care, education, etc. But then only my wife listens to me, and even then not always.

The science that comes from the space program benefits all mankind. And the future of humanity can be safeguarded once we stop keeping all our eggs in this one basket. IMO.

As a massive space nut I'm partial to this argument, though the kind of Human that will live in space wont be much like us, none of our 4.5 billion years of adaptation helps up there. The country I live in is already fairly uninhabitable in parts, Antarctica is not great either. But the worse place on, under or submerged in the oceans of earth is easier to colonise than Mars or the Moon. Earth after a dino-killer rock, gamma burst or rogue black hole would still probably be better than those places for the few survivors, and with infrastructure you can have a lot more survivors. You just wouldn't want to put kids through space any time in the next few hundred years unless people start making some crazy progress.

If we funded environmental research and action (Which should probably include getting industry and energy outside the atmosphere if we can't clean it up) and space based calamity reduction efforts at the same rate as Apollo (and this goes for all governments, not just the US) that would do more for long term survival than anything else. The cost of terraforming any of the frozen/firey hell spheres in this solar system or creating some kind of hard to imagine artificial self sustaining habitat that dosn't need volatiles from earth seems almost unimaginable for a people that have not left Earth orbit in 47 years.

But again, I hope I'm wrong and Eric Weinstein isn't full of shit and his or someone elses sci-fi physics shit will take us to the stars before we use it to blow each other up.
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