Ozmodan wrote on Jul 11, 2019, 07:22:
I expect you will need a new motherboard with this new group of processors. You would think Intel would actually realize that making people constantly change motherboards is an added expense that few want to bother with. I agree with everyone else too, the PCIE 4.0 standard is a waste atm.
They have to do it because the mobo makers demand it. Same for AMD. While AMD have stuck to the AM4 socket since the first Ryzen, they have still had a new chipset and a new lineup of boards for every new Ryzen CPU.
Also, when they revealed Zen 2, AMD has whined about how challenging it was to maintain AM4 compatibility for Zen 2. This might mean we will see a new AMD socket next year as well.
In any case, AMD were probably already forced to make compromises that have hurt Zen 2 just because they promised to stick to AM4 until 2020.
That's actually pretty stupid if you have to shoehorn your brandnew tech into an existing "vintage" socket that was designed for a vastly different architectural design. You invalidate any learning process and might be forced to artificially hold back the new design's full potential. That's just dumb.
So, aside from the mobo makers demanding new chipsets and sockets for new products, you also have real tangible technical/electrical reasons why the socket needs to be replaced every so often.
Real PC enthusiasts won't have a problem with that anyway because there are always new chipset/mobo features to be had... PCIe 4.0, more PCIe lanes, newer/faster DDR-RAM support, new USB versions, more m.2 slots for SSDs, faster LAN, better audio codecs, you name it.
It's usually only the cheapskate AMD peasants who whine about new boards... you know, the ones who pair their fancy new 12 core 3900X CPU with the cheapest, lowest possible quality B450 trash board.