Verno wrote on Jun 27, 2019, 18:34:
Creston wrote on Jun 27, 2019, 16:02:
Ugh, I'm not going to read 155 posts, but I was just thinking of this earlier:
Everyone who argues that the extra split that EGS gives is going to somehow wind up in the hands of the developers, please think about this: The gaming industry is rife with stories of publishers abusing the LIVING FUCK out devs. Year long crunch times, 100 hour work weeks, no paid overtime, etc.
Yet somehow, you guys think that these publishers, these selfsame pieces of shit that treat human beings as fucking CATTLE, are going to voluntarily give these devs more money?
Yep. There is far more evidence demonstrating that too, the case for optimism is flimsy at best. I'm sure Randy Pitchford and Take-Two will be writing extra large bonus checks instead of fucking over their staff. Shit even among indie devs we have many examples of people absconding with development funds. The gaming industry is a pretty shitty place and it needs unionization a lot more than it needs an extra 12% revenue split.
And again they're not selling shares here, we're buying games. I don't care how they divvy the back end. Revenue splits are a PR handwave. Stop doing shitty things like removing consumer choice and pretending like you're doing us a favor.
The funny thing is that the people who are arguing for EGS are actually more concerned with hurting Valve for not making games anymore than they are for "better stuff for everyone". They believe that Valve will be pushed into making games again if Epic's Store takes off.