Verno wrote on Jun 27, 2019, 09:09:
Numinar wrote on Jun 27, 2019, 08:30:
People seem to care a whole lot about this though, it's not like my usual tirade in a thread with six posts nobody cares about. Maybe I have trouble expressing incredulity and I suppose I should let these dumb boycotts go uncommented
I don't really get this attitude though. EGS is a shitty client, everyone acknowledges that. It has no unique or innovative features to attract users. Quite the opposite its far worse than competing clients from EA, Ubisoft and Valve. So of course people are exasperated when their answer instead is to just buy up exclusivity rights. That's garbage shit from consoleland, in fact several of the users defending it here I've seen trashing the consoles for those practices. Why is "dumb" that people just exercise some willpower and not support practices that they don't like? And quite frankly there are many, many more posts from the people here who claim they don't care so hard yet keep spending hours trying to convince others to buy games on there. "It doesn't matter where you buy games" after all as we've been told countless times - so it shouldn't matter if people just wait and get those games elsewhere.
When EGS had their sale and was providing a consumer benefit by taking a subsidized hit, I rewarded them. When they do shitty things like buying exclusives, I don't. When EA, Ubisoft and Valve do things that annoy me, they get the same treatment. Epic doesn't get the kid glove treatment just because they're a new player in the industry. Seems pretty rational to me. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed over what others do their money either.
The thing is, EGS can't do sales and take a subsidized hit. No publisher will give them pricing control. So if they decide that everything is 10% cheaper on their site, publishers will pull off. Even though it's EGS doing it, they're taking pricing out of the hands of the publishers, which potentially puts those publishers in violation of agreements elsewhere.
Again, when Steam runs a sale, Steam is not cutting the pricing, publishers are. It's the same with EGS.
There's only one lever EGS has. And, thus far, I can't think of a single thing anyone has truly lost here, other than the "choice," but in the past our choice was just Steam, so...
EGS doesn't have keys on key sites... yet. I'll acknowledge that's a loss, but I don't think it's been a tangible one yet.
EGS doesn't have a cart. Who cares? We don't pay by transaction.
EGS doesn't have mod support, but it hasn't yet released a game that would be a candidate for modding.
EGS has really weak multiplayer pieces, but hasn't yet released a game where this matters, either.
I've been doing a lot of XCOM 2 lately, and the XCOM subreddit is absolutely batshit over the possibility that XCOM3, a game not even announced yet, may be an EGS exclusive, and EGS doesn't have the modding or cloud features that makes it so easy on Steam. This is lunacy to me. The game isn't announced, its exclusivity is hypothetical at best, EGS has shown a roadmap that shows these things should be in place before an XCOM3 announcement, and there's little to no chance XCOM3 would go to EGS if EGS was lacking key features that it virtually required on Steam. But hey, panic all you want. I'll wait for something to actually be either meaningful, or the eventuality of it being meaningful is guaranteed, before I panic.