Out of the Blue

I joked about it yesterday, but this does seem to be more PC gaming news than the usual E3. I wonder if that has to do with being near the end of the current console cycle? Whatever the cause, I'm happy about it. The occasions when the show is mostly console games can be a little depressing. It's also funny how much of the news from the show has rolled out already since it still hasn't actually begun. E3 2019 officially kicks off today at 2:00 pm EDT. Enjoy.

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I have "Team" ram...
Never heard of them but they were on some site for best ram of 2018/19 or whatever.
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 19:08:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 17:33:
Why the 3700x and not the 3800x, inquiring minds and all that.

40 extra TDP on the 3800X for a meager 300Mhz gain on the base frequency and 100Mhz on the max boost.

I'd prefer to run my machine as cool and quiet as possible, thus the 3700X.

Edit:

I've always run Crucial or Corsair memory as those are brands I know and trust. How does G.SKILL compare?
I think what we're going to find out (err I hope, but I ain't buying nuttin until it's been tested in the wild by peeps I trust) is that the 3800x will run more cores at max boost for a longer period of time. Or, as CJ Parker said in another thread;/snip "The 3800X will allow a higher boost w/o manual OC over the 3700X. AMD aren't complete retards. AMD isn't arbitrarily putting these TDP limits as labels on their SKUs.." just for grins
/snippet

I don't wanna say motor oil memory is motor oil memory but ...
G.Skill was shown to be the only DDR4 manufacturer not vulnerable to Rowhammer. take that w/a grain of salt as it comes from the wiki.

Back in the day I'd only buy Mushkin, today I'm looking for the best price on the best specc'ed component that is not a brand I've never ever heard of before.
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Jun 11, 2019, 20:09
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Jun 11, 2019, 20:09
 Kxmode
 
Digging Lana Del Ray's cover of Sublime's "Doing Time."
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times." - Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf
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Jun 11, 2019, 19:54
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 19:08:
I've always run Crucial or Corsair memory as those are brands I know and trust. How does G.SKILL compare?

The kit RedEye9 linked is Samsung B-Die, which usually plays very well with Ryzen CPUs.
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Jun 11, 2019, 19:08
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 17:33:
Why the 3700x and not the 3800x, inquiring minds and all that.

40 extra TDP on the 3800X for a meager 300Mhz gain on the base frequency and 100Mhz on the max boost.

I'd prefer to run my machine as cool and quiet as possible, thus the 3700X.

Edit:

I've always run Crucial or Corsair memory as those are brands I know and trust. How does G.SKILL compare?
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 15:41:
I have finalized my system build:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
ASRock X570 Taichi Ultimate
32GB PC3200 CL15 8x4

I'll be recycling the three SSDs, power supply, GPU, and case from my current system.

I'm waiting to see how the 5700XT does in real world tests before I hop on board. I'd love full open source compatibility by having an all AMD system but the 1660 Ti that I recent bought is seriously kicking ass at 1080p/144Hz. I also recently picked up a trio of ViewSonic Elite XG240R monitors and I am really loving them. Although they are TN panels, they are easily as bright and clear as the Dell IPS 24" 60Hz panels they replaced.
Why the 3700x and not the 3800x, inquiring minds and all that.
I'm gonna pick the 3800x and grab 16gb of DDR4 3600 CAS 16-16-16-36
X570 Taichi or similar.
Still flailing wildly on a gpu, but that too shall be got.
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Jun 11, 2019, 15:54
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 15:41:
Neurological diseases such as Alzheimer's and dementia along with cancer can kiss my ass, rim me, and lap at my taint while they're at. I have had family die from both and it's fucking horrific.

Grandma ( who was my 2nd mom, we had an inter-generational household until I was 10 ) had all 3 before she died... she was the shadow of her former self, but damn, she still was the kinded person I've ever met, woman was a saint. Still, I was relieved for her when death finally took her, crying did hurt but in a good way, may she rest in peace.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 15:41:
I have finalized my system build:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
ASRock X570 Taichi Ultimate
32GB PC3200 CL15 8x4

I'll be recycling the three SSDs, power supply, GPU, and case from my current system.

Looks good, RAM is pretty much at that sweet spot where further speed gives diminishing returns according to AMD: https://i.redd.it/d24hymdbbm331.png

Should perform like a champ both stock and OC'd.

GL
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Jun 11, 2019, 15:41
 
Neurological diseases such as Alzheimer's and dementia along with cancer can kiss my ass, rim me, and lap at my taint while they're at. I have had family die from both and it's fucking horrific.

I have finalized my system build:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
ASRock X570 Taichi Ultimate
32GB PC3200 CL15 8x4

I'll be recycling the three SSDs, power supply, GPU, and case from my current system.

I'm waiting to see how the 5700XT does in real world tests before I hop on board. I'd love full open source compatibility by having an all AMD system but the 1660 Ti that I recent bought is seriously kicking ass at 1080p/144Hz. I also recently picked up a trio of ViewSonic Elite XG240R monitors and I am really loving them. Although they are TN panels, they are easily as bright and clear as the Dell IPS 24" 60Hz panels they replaced.
"No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

There are two types of computer users: Masochists and Linux users.

If you would like help or further details on a technical discussion we're having, email me at bnhelp (at sign) keepusiel.net . Pl
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Jun 11, 2019, 14:36
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Hoop wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 13:50:
Every trailer I click on starts with a generic tough guy surrounded when in leaps a forward rolling chick who springs to her feet mowing down everything in sight.
So reminiscent of the assassins in 1998's Half Life.
the more things change the m...
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Jun 11, 2019, 14:15
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PHJF wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 12:25:
I finally tried some Beyond Meat: used the crumbles in vegetarian enchiladas. While the texture was pretty good (far better than goopy soy-based products), it was over flavored; tasted more like cooked hamburgers that had been crumbled up than plain beef, which was not at all what I was going for in enchiladas.

And no mention of our little 4.0 earthquake in Cleveland yesterday!?

I grabbed the Beyond Burgers from the grocery store to give them a try a couple weeks ago. I didn't like them at all. Clearly tasted nothing like beef and more like plant. I did have the Impossible Burger and that actually tasted like meat.
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Every trailer I click on starts with a generic tough guy surrounded when in leaps a forward rolling chick who springs to her feet mowing down everything in sight.
Um .. Behind you...
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Jun 11, 2019, 13:32
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 13:19:
I'm not a streamer so the 3800x has got my eye.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-3800x

Yep, if not streaming nor needing lots of processing power for productivity, it should easily get you through the next generation consoles lifetime.
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Jun 11, 2019, 13:23
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 12:27:
Dementia is horrific. I'd much rather die 15 years earlier of a stroke or heart attack.
I watched my fathers slide downhill into never never land over a period of years, until nothing was left. I agree, it's horrific.
Mom on the other hand had terminal cancer, she went fast.
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Simon Says wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 13:14:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 11:48:
If you think about it, why wait for some random date to announce your new widget.

E3 is suffering from xmas syndrome. That's where stores start showing xmas stuff earlier and earlier, I'm no longer surprised by the Santa yard inflatables displayed in March.

But... I bet the Ryzen 3000 serie made you salivate early instead of waiting for July, so I guess, mission accomplished.

Joking aside, the performance was top notch, especially considering the benchmarks they ran were pre win 10 may update scheduler optimizations ( mostly affecting gaming and increasing perf by "upto" 15% in CPU limited scenarios ) and the Intel systems didn't have the security mitigations enabled for either gaming nor productive workloads.

AMD looks pretty confident this time both in gaming and productivity workloads if they gave Intel "all the help they could get" in the benchmarks.

Kinda wish I hadn't went with an i7-8700 in late 2017, but the i7-870 was getting pretty long in the tooth, even oc'd, so heh, I'll just wait till the i7-8700 can't keep up anymore before upgrading.

Which of the 3000 serie got you salivating the most?
I'm not a streamer so the 3800x has got my eye.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-3800x

and by widget I meant anything and everything including games
I expect the one-upmanship to start earlier and earlier in the future making shows like this less and less important.
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 11, 2019, 11:48:
If you think about it, why wait for some random date to announce your new widget.

E3 is suffering from xmas syndrome. That's where stores start showing xmas stuff earlier and earlier, I'm no longer surprised by the Santa yard inflatables displayed in March.

But... I bet the Ryzen 3000 serie made you salivate early instead of waiting for July, so I guess, mission accomplished.

Joking aside, the performance was top notch, especially considering the benchmarks they ran were pre win 10 may update scheduler optimizations ( mostly affecting gaming and increasing perf by "upto" 15% in CPU limited scenarios ) and the Intel systems didn't have the security mitigations enabled for either gaming nor productive workloads.

AMD looks pretty confident this time both in gaming and productivity workloads if they gave Intel "all the help they could get" in the benchmarks.

Kinda wish I hadn't went with an i7-8700 in late 2017, but the i7-870 was getting pretty long in the tooth, even oc'd, so heh, I'll just wait till the i7-8700 can't keep up anymore before upgrading.

Which of the 3000 serie got you salivating the most?
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Dementia is horrific. I'd much rather die 15 years earlier of a stroke or heart attack.
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I finally tried some Beyond Meat: used the crumbles in vegetarian enchiladas. While the texture was pretty good (far better than goopy soy-based products), it was over flavored; tasted more like cooked hamburgers that had been crumbled up than plain beef, which was not at all what I was going for in enchiladas.

And no mention of our little 4.0 earthquake in Cleveland yesterday!?
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Jun 11, 2019, 12:07
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Here's hoping that vaccine works. Neurological diseases and conditions are just the worst. My neighbor's wife has Alzheimer's and it's just terrible. She's such a lovely human being. And to see her decline over the last 3 years has been shocking. From the Alzheimer's Society....

Above the age of 65, a person's risk of developing Alzheimer's disease or vascular dementia doubles roughly every 5 years. It is estimated that dementia affects one in 14 people over 65 and one in six over 80.

Tell me that's not scary, and it's getting worse. She's lucky she has such a loving family to help. It's horrific enough to be staring that down but with no support besides being stuck in an institution somewhere until you fade away? There are too many things in this world that really are worse than dying.
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If you think about it, why wait for some random date to announce your new widget.

E3 is suffering from xmas syndrome. That's where stores start showing xmas stuff earlier and earlier, I'm no longer surprised by the Santa yard inflatables displayed in March.

A mask is not a political statement.
It's an IQ test.
It's a compassion test.
It's a decency test.
It's a social responsibility test.
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Re: Magnetic anomaly discovered beneath lunar crater
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Scientists don't know what it is? Merely the plot of a half century old Kubrick film.
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