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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 12:07
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 12:07
Jun 5, 2019, 12:07
 
So then don't work with Youtube. Go to a competing site or start one. Jesus, do liberals only know how to whine?
"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 12:17
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 12:17
Jun 5, 2019, 12:17
 Verno
 
Crowder makes a living trolling people and knows how to toe the line. I don't really see that the guy has a case there either. The creator has said similar things about himself, obviously in a different context but nothing there is outright hate speech to me. And you can't ban someone from Youtube for being mean. Well you can but then half of the site would disappear
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 14:08
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 14:08
Jun 5, 2019, 14:08
 
Neither Ranch nor Sneaky Pete tickled my fancy.
Now ranch dressing on the other hand, well that stuff is just insanely good.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 15:07
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 15:07
Jun 5, 2019, 15:07
 
I guess all those LGBTQ+ people can just boycott youtube and we will all have to deal with a lot less hate on Freedom of speech
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 15:11
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 15:11
Jun 5, 2019, 15:11
 
Verno wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 12:17:
And you can't ban someone from Youtube for being mean.

They sure can. It's written very plainly in their ToS.

"Content or behavior intended to maliciously harass, threaten, or bully others is not allowed on YouTube."

"Don’t post...content that makes hurtful and negative personal comments/videos about another person"

"Your channel will be terminated if you receive 3 strikes."
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 15:27
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 15:27
Jun 5, 2019, 15:27
 
jamiedj99 wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:07:
I guess all those LGBTQ+ people can just boycott youtube and we will all have to deal with a lot less hate on Freedom of speech

No one hates on freedom of speech, people hate on hate speech.
No one has the absolute right to say whatever they want, wherever they want, without consequence. Being kicked off of a privately owned platform is one of those consequences.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
 Verno
 
Bodolza wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:11:
They sure can. It's written very plainly in their ToS.

"Content or behavior intended to maliciously harass, threaten, or bully others is not allowed on YouTube."

"Don’t post...content that makes hurtful and negative personal comments/videos about another person"

"Your channel will be terminated if you receive 3 strikes."

Sure, we know. They aren't going to do that though because much of Youtube is filled with "reaction" and critique videos that could be construed that way. They already reviewed his videos and determined it didn't meet the bar. As I said Crowder is a well known troll and knows how to walk the line.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
Jun 5, 2019, 15:59
 
Bodolza wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:11:
Verno wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 12:17:
And you can't ban someone from Youtube for being mean.

They sure can. It's written very plainly in their ToS.

"Content or behavior intended to maliciously harass, threaten, or bully others is not allowed on YouTube."

"Don’t post...content that makes hurtful and negative personal comments/videos about another person"

"Your channel will be terminated if you receive 3 strikes."
The wonders of literacy.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 16:38
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 16:38
Jun 5, 2019, 16:38
 Verno
 
And you can't ban someone from Youtube for being mean. Well you can but then half of the site would disappear

The wonders of literacy hahah Trollbashing
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 19:47
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 19:47
Jun 5, 2019, 19:47
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:27:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:07:
I guess all those LGBTQ+ people can just boycott youtube and we will all have to deal with a lot less hate on Freedom of speech

No one hates on freedom of speech, people hate on hate speech.
No one has the absolute right to say whatever they want, wherever they want, without consequence. Being kicked off of a privately owned platform is one of those consequences.

No no no.
You don't want to ban "Hate speech" because, it doesn't exist.
You want to ban free speech that you hate.
Big difference.
As everyone's interpretation of what constitutes "speech they hate" is different it becomes a tangled web no one is capable of defining to suit all.
The Lame Stream Media in the USA these days is nothing more than a Democrat Party protection racket.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 20:13
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 20:13
Jun 5, 2019, 20:13
 Verno
 
Youtube ruled this doesn't meet their standard for whatever you want to label it so while the creator is unquestionably a dipshit and has proven so on several occasions already, he does get a pass until he pushes too far one day. It's their platform and they can do what they want and they have chosen to do nothing.

Frankly I'm much more concerned with Youtube booting off anti-vaccination channels and flat earthers. The conspiracy nonsense has gone way too far on Youtube and continues to grow. It used to be ha-ha funny and now its kind of nervous laughter when you look at their numbers and realize that its growing significantly.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 21:15
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 21:15
Jun 5, 2019, 21:15
 
https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1136056986938806272

This is Mr. Maza's twitter post complaining/bitching about Youtube NOT banning Crowder.

No support for his thin skinned hypocrisy there.
I don't care what your skin color is or what sexual orientation you are people with common sense know what's really going on here.
The Lame Stream Media in the USA these days is nothing more than a Democrat Party protection racket.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 21:28
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 21:28
Jun 5, 2019, 21:28
 

Carlos Maza
To be crystal clear: @YouTube has decided that targeted racist and homophobic harassment does not violate its policies against hate speech or harassment.

That’s an absolutely batshit policy that gives bigots free license.
Agree with Carlos 110%
It's about time youtube changes that and gets rid of the losers.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 21:34
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 21:34
Jun 5, 2019, 21:34
 
ventry wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 21:15:
https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1136056986938806272

This is Mr. Maza's twitter post complaining/bitching about Youtube NOT banning Crowder.

No support for his thin skinned hypocrisy there.
I don't care what your skin color is or what sexual orientation you are people with common sense know what's really going on here.

What hypocrisy?
What's really going on here?
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Direct link to the compilation of Crowder he made.
https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1136057689585410050

I can see why YouTube thinks it skirts the line but isn't willing to take action over those specific examples, but they're definitely bullying by race and orientation at the least and hate speech at the most. Just milder forms than apparently YT is willing to take action on.

Personally I wouldn't ban someone over that if I was running my own platform, but at the same time I can see where based on YT's rules you'd think that they would.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 21:45
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 21:45
Jun 5, 2019, 21:45
 
ventry wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 19:47:
Beamer wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:27:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:07:
I guess all those LGBTQ+ people can just boycott youtube and we will all have to deal with a lot less hate on Freedom of speech

No one hates on freedom of speech, people hate on hate speech.
No one has the absolute right to say whatever they want, wherever they want, without consequence. Being kicked off of a privately owned platform is one of those consequences.

No no no.
You don't want to ban "Hate speech" because, it doesn't exist.
You want to ban free speech that you hate.
Big difference.
As everyone's interpretation of what constitutes "speech they hate" is different it becomes a tangled web no one is capable of defining to suit all.

Wait, hate speech doesn't exist?
You have to be trolling, no? Or, perhaps, you don't know what the KKK is.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 23:04
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 23:04
Jun 5, 2019, 23:04
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ventry wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 21:15:
No support for his thin skinned hypocrisy there.
I don't care what your skin color is or what sexual orientation you are

Yes you do. We know exactly the kind of person you are from your posts here. You've never had a critical word to say of any bigotry or hate against minority groups. On the contrary, you seem to think that racism and bigotry are just made up and don't actually exist.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 23:25
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 23:25
Jun 5, 2019, 23:25
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 21:45:
ventry wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 19:47:
Beamer wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:27:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 15:07:
I guess all those LGBTQ+ people can just boycott youtube and we will all have to deal with a lot less hate on Freedom of speech

No one hates on freedom of speech, people hate on hate speech.
No one has the absolute right to say whatever they want, wherever they want, without consequence. Being kicked off of a privately owned platform is one of those consequences.

No no no.
You don't want to ban "Hate speech" because, it doesn't exist.
You want to ban free speech that you hate.
Big difference.
As everyone's interpretation of what constitutes "speech they hate" is different it becomes a tangled web no one is capable of defining to suit all.

Wait, hate speech doesn't exist?
You have to be trolling, no? Or, perhaps, you don't know what the KKK is.

FREE SPEECH:
noun
the right of people to express their opinions publicly without governmental interference, subject to the laws against libel, incitement to violence or rebellion, etc.

I've never read any KKK tweets or posts.(have you?)
IF they (the KKK) say they a) "hate (insert group here)" that is still free speech.
However if they (the KKK) say b) "we want to kill (insert group here)" that is NOT free speech.

Just because you "hate" what they say in example 'a' (as do I) doesn't make it "hate speech".

The term "hate speech" is a term sequestered by the "loony left" in an attempt to silence opinions they hate. It is incorrect and false.

Crowder stayed well within the above.
However Mr Maza's call for supporters to "throw milkshakes" at people with opposing opinions is definitely outside the above. i.e assault.
right here:
https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1130862813713502210
He also calls for a harassment campaign.
That would also be "bullying".
Pot kettle, black.



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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 23:30
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 23:30
Jun 5, 2019, 23:30
 
NKD wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 23:04:
ventry wrote on Jun 5, 2019, 21:15:
No support for his thin skinned hypocrisy there.
I don't care what your skin color is or what sexual orientation you are

Yes you do.

No I don't.
The Lame Stream Media in the USA these days is nothing more than a Democrat Party protection racket.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Jun 5, 2019, 23:45
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Re: Morning Metaverse Jun 5, 2019, 23:45
Jun 5, 2019, 23:45
 
I'm really disappointed with some of you Blue's News people... I had hoped that you guys would be intelligent, mature people but seeing so many of you either defending Crowder or just not seeing the problem with YouTube's bullshit ruling on his harassment or the ones claiming hate speech doesn't exist I realize now that world is just overflowing with closed minded bigots and homophobes.
I should have known better but I guess I'm just a sucker for giving people the benefit of the doubt sometimes...

Shame on you people!
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