Out of the Blue

We caught up with the first episode of Chernobyl on HBO and wow, is that intense. It may seem that knowing the general outcome of the disaster would prevent this from being that interesting, but they make this work well for how the story unfolds as you start out with a greater understanding of what's at stake at first than most of those involved. That, combined with all that's at stake makes it all incredibly gripping. I have to agree a sentiment I saw expressed in our forums that I wish the whole thing was available right off to binge. If you haven't seen it yet, here's the official trailer for the series. Now please excuse me, I want to hunt down some iodine pills.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2011/apr/26/chernobyl-nuclear-disaster-in-pictures
Good pics of the disaster
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Re: gubment coverups are the best coverup
May 10, 2019, 11:41
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Beamer wrote on May 10, 2019, 11:33:
Simon Says wrote on May 10, 2019, 09:59:
1badmf wrote on May 9, 2019, 21:32:
RedEye9 wrote on May 9, 2019, 11:15:
I don't think intense even begins to describe that first episode.
Those firefighters are dead (I was yelling "Don't touch the core you big dummy" at one of them), the helicopter pilots who flew over the core to drop concrete are dead, all the power plant workers who were sent around the plant to "fix" things are dead.
happy happy joy joy
anybody else went and read the wikipedia after? i did. let's just say, this gets MORE intense later. i find it enlightening to see how the soviet system of nepotism and blame shifting basically fucked the disaster response since no one wanted to take any responsibility for it until the truth hit them in the face literally like a nuclear bomb. until then, the response was piece-meal and entirely inadequate and probably cost many hundreds if not thousand of unnecessary deaths.

In reality, there were only a few dozen direct and indirect deaths from Chernobyl, around 30... Shocking I know. Didn't you read that part of the wikipedia page?

Actually, in 2008, they confirmed 64 deaths due to radation. Indirect deaths are hotly debated, but expected to ultimately tally somewhere between 4,000 and 20,000.

All of which is in the Wikipedia page.
Beamer can not only read but he can also think.
shocking, I know
“The time has come for us to move beyond seeing public health as the ax in the display case, where the sign says IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BREAK GLASS.”
Pandemics don’t end because the economy is suffering and we want them to.
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Re: gubment coverups are the best coverup
May 10, 2019, 11:33
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Simon Says wrote on May 10, 2019, 09:59:
1badmf wrote on May 9, 2019, 21:32:
RedEye9 wrote on May 9, 2019, 11:15:
I don't think intense even begins to describe that first episode.
Those firefighters are dead (I was yelling "Don't touch the core you big dummy" at one of them), the helicopter pilots who flew over the core to drop concrete are dead, all the power plant workers who were sent around the plant to "fix" things are dead.
happy happy joy joy
anybody else went and read the wikipedia after? i did. let's just say, this gets MORE intense later. i find it enlightening to see how the soviet system of nepotism and blame shifting basically fucked the disaster response since no one wanted to take any responsibility for it until the truth hit them in the face literally like a nuclear bomb. until then, the response was piece-meal and entirely inadequate and probably cost many hundreds if not thousand of unnecessary deaths.

In reality, there were only a few dozen direct and indirect deaths from Chernobyl, around 30... Shocking I know. Didn't you read that part of the wikipedia page?

Actually, in 2008, they confirmed 64 deaths due to radation. Indirect deaths are hotly debated, but expected to ultimately tally somewhere between 4,000 and 20,000.

All of which is in the Wikipedia page.
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Re: gubment coverups are the best coverup
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1badmf wrote on May 9, 2019, 21:32:
RedEye9 wrote on May 9, 2019, 11:15:
I don't think intense even begins to describe that first episode.
Those firefighters are dead (I was yelling "Don't touch the core you big dummy" at one of them), the helicopter pilots who flew over the core to drop concrete are dead, all the power plant workers who were sent around the plant to "fix" things are dead.
happy happy joy joy
anybody else went and read the wikipedia after? i did. let's just say, this gets MORE intense later. i find it enlightening to see how the soviet system of nepotism and blame shifting basically fucked the disaster response since no one wanted to take any responsibility for it until the truth hit them in the face literally like a nuclear bomb. until then, the response was piece-meal and entirely inadequate and probably cost many hundreds if not thousand of unnecessary deaths.

In reality, there were only a few dozen direct and indirect deaths from Chernobyl, around 30... Shocking I know. Didn't you read that part of the wikipedia page?
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Re: gubment coverups are the best coverup
May 9, 2019, 21:32
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RedEye9 wrote on May 9, 2019, 11:15:
I don't think intense even begins to describe that first episode.
Those firefighters are dead (I was yelling "Don't touch the core you big dummy" at one of them), the helicopter pilots who flew over the core to drop concrete are dead, all the power plant workers who were sent around the plant to "fix" things are dead.
happy happy joy joy


anybody else went and read the wikipedia after? i did. let's just say, this gets MORE intense later. i find it enlightening to see how the soviet system of nepotism and blame shifting basically fucked the disaster response since no one wanted to take any responsibility for it until the truth hit them in the face literally like a nuclear bomb. until then, the response was piece-meal and entirely inadequate and probably cost many hundreds if not thousand of unnecessary deaths.
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May 9, 2019, 21:11
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RedEye9 wrote on May 9, 2019, 20:16:
Acleacius wrote on May 9, 2019, 19:36:
Not to step on Chernobyl but Lucifer season 4 is probably the best season yet. It's Netflix's first shot at Lucifer after getting it from fox. Lighter
I'd given up mid season 3. I'll try season 4. thanks
I know what you mean, I haven't been able to bring myself to watch season 3 again. Wall2
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May 9, 2019, 20:52
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El Pit wrote on May 9, 2019, 16:28:
That Ben Kenobi vs. Darth Vader duel easily beats the sequel trilogy fights and even the too artistic fights of the prequel trilogy in my opinion.

Ugh, it was like special edition George was back again for some more fuckery. Really illustrates one of the areas the prequels went wrong. And the less said about the editing the better.
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Acleacius wrote on May 9, 2019, 19:36:
Not to step on Chernobyl but Lucifer season 4 is probably the best season yet. It's Netflix's first shot at Lucifer after getting it from fox. Lighter
I'd given up mid season 3. I'll try season 4. thanks
“The time has come for us to move beyond seeing public health as the ax in the display case, where the sign says IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BREAK GLASS.”
Pandemics don’t end because the economy is suffering and we want them to.
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May 9, 2019, 20:13
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Well done Australia!
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VoodooV wrote on May 9, 2019, 14:32:
I'm not getting a easily preventable disease, I'm building character

You both want to eat some bacon.

You go to the store and buy bacon (vaccine).

He buys a piglet, raises it, slaughters it, butchers it, and cures the bacon.
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May 9, 2019, 19:36
 
Not to step on Chernobyl but Lucifer season 4 is probably the best season yet. It's Netflix's first shot at Lucifer after getting it from fox. Lighter
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May 9, 2019, 17:55
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Jivaro wrote on May 9, 2019, 16:48:
VoodooV wrote on May 9, 2019, 14:32:
I'm not getting a easily preventable disease, I'm building character

I like that. lol

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“The time has come for us to move beyond seeing public health as the ax in the display case, where the sign says IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BREAK GLASS.”
Pandemics don’t end because the economy is suffering and we want them to.
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VoodooV wrote on May 9, 2019, 14:32:
I'm not getting a easily preventable disease, I'm building character

I like that. lol

alternatively: "Chicken pox will put hair on your chest!"
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 9, 2019, 16:28
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That Ben Kenobi vs. Darth Vader duel easily beats the sequel trilogy fights and even the too artistic fights of the prequel trilogy in my opinion. Great work by real fans!
See this and cry, Darth Mouse - this is what Star Wars should look and feel like.
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