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I recently noted here that I was experiencing so much discomfort in my hamstring that I was considering limping over to the doctor for a look-see. As I mentioned when this came up since then in the forums, this seems to have largely taken care of itself. MrsBlue gave me a foam exercise roller to work out the painful area at the top of the muscle, which helped a bit with that. As for the area around my knee, I simply tried to take extra care not to cross my legs oddly, or do anything that would torque the area at all. It's a surprise for me that a little additional rest and care was enough to set this right, as I only got to the point of mentioning it here at the point I was pretty sure my discomfort was not going to go away on its own. Obviously, I'm not going to complain about that.

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17. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 20:59 1badmf
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 18:56:
PHJF wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 17:12:
If thereís one thing I learned making planes in kerbal space program itís this:
Do NOT fuck with offcentered thrust vectors. Telling my kerbal pilots to fight a constantly pitching vehicle is not a recipe for success.

Depends on how you build it. I have a 6 R.A.P.I.E.R. engined SSTO that flys like a dream. I even took that bastard to the Mun, landed it on wheels, and planted a flag before returning to Kerbin.


then you're some kind of genius engineer, but for us mere mortals, averaging out off-center thrust with opposite off-center aero is like balancing an egg on one end. pain in the ass, crash prone, and not worth the headache. and there's always the unanticipated edge case that could cause an imbalance you didn't see coming and flip that shit end over end. KISS and be done with it.
 
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 19:02 bigspender
 
'Extinction Rebellion' climate change protesters arrested in London, Los Angeles.

This guy gets triggered so bad lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBFZbx37Ma8
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 18:56 Burrito of Peace
 
PHJF wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 17:12:
If thereís one thing I learned making planes in kerbal space program itís this:
Do NOT fuck with offcentered thrust vectors. Telling my kerbal pilots to fight a constantly pitching vehicle is not a recipe for success.

Depends on how you build it. I have a 6 R.A.P.I.E.R. engined SSTO that flys like a dream. I even took that bastard to the Mun, landed it on wheels, and planted a flag before returning to Kerbin.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 17:12 PHJF
 
If thereís one thing I learned making planes in kerbal space program itís this:
Do NOT fuck with offcentered thrust vectors. Telling my kerbal pilots to fight a constantly pitching vehicle is not a recipe for success.
 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 15:17 jdreyer
 
VaranDragon wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:38:
WaltC wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:00:
Great article! What I found interesting from day one of the MAX stories is that out of all of the airlines using the MAX only *one* has had a fatal crash in the planes--and two MAX crashes, at that. (Unless another has occurred that I have missed somehow.) No other crashes of the plane have occurred, apparently. What is the #1 cause of plane crashes? Pilot error. All modern passenger aircraft have software controlling many things in flight. And these are computer systems costing a million dollars or more, with redundant backups, and all kinds of costly safeguards. Yet, they can manifest bugs, nonetheless; and sometimes fatal bugs, as Boeing says is the case here (so why haven't *all* of the MAX planes similarly crashed?--Goes to the pilot,again, I think.) Doesn't bode well for the dime-store computers in self-driving cars, certainly!

You must have skimmed the article. How did you not catch the reason for the crashes from the article? The writer, a software developer & pilot goes into great detail into exactly why the planes crashed.
There have been several near misses as well. Boeing is lucky they didn't lose more planes. Software is supposed to help prevent pilot error, not cause potential problems that the pilot must prevent.
 
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 14:14 Hoop
 
I heard E.Norma received two large vessels for her birthday, everyone visiting that day got to see her huge jugs.  
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11. Re: New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa Apr 23, 2019, 13:46 RedEye9
 
Porn-O-Matic wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:42:
More like, "New fossils suggest that scientists are constantly wrong and have no clue where we evolved." (And they always will be wrong, because "evolution" is just one of Satan's many lies.)
:D
 
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10. Re: New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa Apr 23, 2019, 13:42 Porn-O-Matic
 
More like, "New fossils suggest that scientists are constantly wrong and have no clue where we evolved." (And they always will be wrong, because "evolution" is just one of Satan's many lies.)  
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 13:38 VaranDragon
 
WaltC wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:00:
Great article! What I found interesting from day one of the MAX stories is that out of all of the airlines using the MAX only *one* has had a fatal crash in the planes--and two MAX crashes, at that. (Unless another has occurred that I have missed somehow.) No other crashes of the plane have occurred, apparently. What is the #1 cause of plane crashes? Pilot error. All modern passenger aircraft have software controlling many things in flight. And these are computer systems costing a million dollars or more, with redundant backups, and all kinds of costly safeguards. Yet, they can manifest bugs, nonetheless; and sometimes fatal bugs, as Boeing says is the case here (so why haven't *all* of the MAX planes similarly crashed?--Goes to the pilot,again, I think.) Doesn't bode well for the dime-store computers in self-driving cars, certainly!

You must have skimmed the article. How did you not catch the reason for the crashes from the article? The writer, a software developer & pilot goes into great detail into exactly why the planes crashed.
 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 13:36 Mr. Tact
 
One of them would have crashed a day earlier if the deadheading pilot hadn't known turning off the MCAS was the "fix" to the issue...  
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7. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 13:23 Beamer
 
WaltC wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:00:
Great article! What I found interesting from day one of the MAX stories is that out of all of the airlines using the MAX only *one* has had a fatal crash in the planes--and two MAX crashes, at that. (Unless another has occurred that I have missed somehow.) No other crashes of the plane have occurred, apparently. What is the #1 cause of plane crashes? Pilot error. All modern passenger aircraft have software controlling many things in flight. And these are computer systems costing a million dollars or more, with redundant backups, and all kinds of costly safeguards. Yet, they can manifest bugs, nonetheless; and sometimes fatal bugs, as Boeing says is the case here (so why haven't *all* of the MAX planes similarly crashed?--Goes to the pilot,again, I think.) Doesn't bode well for the dime-store computers in self-driving cars, certainly!

Two deadly crashes. 189 dead, then another 157 dead.
Two deadly crashes within the first two years of delivery (and within months of the first large deliveries)
Two different airlines

My cousin, also from California, also a hardcore libertarian, is also adamant that this was pilot error and Boeing isn't culpable. Curious to know why this type of person is adamant that individuals were at fault, not the manufacturer, when both went down seemingly for the same reason.
 
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6. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 13:12 RedEye9
 
WaltC wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 13:00:
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Please refrain on posting what you think on this subject unless you are going to take the time to study and understand it.
 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 13:00 WaltC
 
Great article! What I found interesting from day one of the MAX stories is that out of all of the airlines using the MAX only *one* has had a fatal crash in the planes--and two MAX crashes, at that. (Unless another has occurred that I have missed somehow.) No other crashes of the plane have occurred, apparently. What is the #1 cause of plane crashes? Pilot error. All modern passenger aircraft have software controlling many things in flight. And these are computer systems costing a million dollars or more, with redundant backups, and all kinds of costly safeguards. Yet, they can manifest bugs, nonetheless; and sometimes fatal bugs, as Boeing says is the case here (so why haven't *all* of the MAX planes similarly crashed?--Goes to the pilot,again, I think.) Doesn't bode well for the dime-store computers in self-driving cars, certainly!  
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4. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 11:50 Cutter
 
That's the problem with archaeology. They find one thing and than build a completely wild supposition around it when all it really means is you found 1 unexpected thing in a place and that could have got there a million different ways. I still believe that people evolved in the sunbelt closer to the equator. Wherever it was doesn't really matter because what is clear is that we spread out very early on anyway. Even Indiana got it wrong when he said "X never ever marks the spot."


 
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 11:36 Mr. Tact
 
There isn't a lot of new information in the 737 article, but I thought it was a good read anyway. I'm pretty sure the consensus has already been reached that the 737 Max has a fundamental design flaw. The reason it has that flaw, and the reason Boeing gerry-rigged a solution all come down to one thing. Money.

It isn't practical, but if it was up to me I'd say *buzz*. This aircraft fails basic aeronautical design principals and will no longer be allowed to fly in US air space.
 
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2. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 10:45 RedEye9
 
VaranDragon wrote on Apr 23, 2019, 10:15:
Pretty great article on the 737 disasters. FLY by wire systems (which MCAS is a big part of) are hardly new. Boggles the mind how they managed to fuck it up to this degree.
In the rush to maximize sales and profits they ...
 
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1. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 23, 2019, 10:15 VaranDragon
 
Pretty great article on the 737 disasters. FLY by wire systems (which MCAS is a big part of) are hardly new. Boggles the mind how they managed to fuck it up to this degree.  
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