RedEye9 wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 10:11:Exactly, the white supremacists just won again. They got exactly what they wanted, preventing the nation and world from learning about it. It was a clearly coordinated effort with republicans, who were trying to deny it even existed during the hearing.
Now if we could only disable white nationalists.
Cutter wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:08:
All this white male bashing is the real racism and bigotry.
Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:58:Cutter wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:08:
All this white male bashing is the real racism and bigotry.
Yup, ladies and gentlemen, here we are. Cutter literally, unironically, said the real victims of racism an sexism are the white males.
wtf_man wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 14:08:
The stereotyping needs to fucking stop.
All this "white priviledge" crap also needs to stop. It's taken folks many years to work up to what they have, and saying it's all "white privelege" diminishes what they ACTAULLY EARNED / ACCOMPLISHED.
Which is also bullshit.
Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:
You are being overly sensitive about this and not thinking clearly or rationally about it. And you probably won't to this feedback, either, but once you trot out the "all" argument, you should recognize that you're leading with your emotions, not your rational side.
Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:Well Miss Cleo it looks like you guessed right this time.
And you probably won't to this feedback, either, ....
wtf_man wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 14:08:Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:58:Cutter wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:08:
All this white male bashing is the real racism and bigotry.
Yup, ladies and gentlemen, here we are. Cutter literally, unironically, said the real victims of racism an sexism are the white males.
Technically... he's right.
There is a small percentage of freak groups like "neo nazis" and the "kkk", but all white males (especially ones that disagree with socialistic policies)are labled as "white nationalists" and "racists".
That's like saying every <insert minority race here> is a criminal.
It's bullshit.
The stereotyping needs to fucking stop.
All this "white priviledge" crap also needs to stop. It's taken folks many years to work up to what they have, and saying it's all "white privelege" diminishes what they ACTAULLY EARNED / ACCOMPLISHED.
Which is also bullshit.
mag wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 21:54:doh
I'm a white male, and somehow I have gone my entire life without anyone calling me a white nationalist or a racist. Am I doing something wrong?
mag wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 21:54:wtf_man wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 14:08:Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:58:Cutter wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 13:08:
All this white male bashing is the real racism and bigotry.
Yup, ladies and gentlemen, here we are. Cutter literally, unironically, said the real victims of racism an sexism are the white males.
Technically... he's right.
There is a small percentage of freak groups like "neo nazis" and the "kkk", but all white males (especially ones that disagree with socialistic policies)are labled as "white nationalists" and "racists".
That's like saying every <insert minority race here> is a criminal.
It's bullshit.
The stereotyping needs to fucking stop.
All this "white priviledge" crap also needs to stop. It's taken folks many years to work up to what they have, and saying it's all "white privelege" diminishes what they ACTAULLY EARNED / ACCOMPLISHED.
Which is also bullshit.
I'm a white male, and somehow I have gone my entire life without anyone calling me a white nationalist or a racist. Am I doing something wrong?
wtf_man wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 16:29:Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:
You are being overly sensitive about this and not thinking clearly or rationally about it. And you probably won't to this feedback, either, but once you trot out the "all" argument, you should recognize that you're leading with your emotions, not your rational side.
Overly sensitive?
Just like every other "Politically Correct" nuance out there to what is deemed "offensive"?
It's ok for others to be offended by whatever circumstance or speech, but not me because I'm a white male?
So I'm overly sensitive... yet anyone else that is offended by whatever act / verbage is justified.
The funny thing is that likeminded folks of your point of view don't see the reverse discrimination in this attitude. You just say I'm (we're) whining.
As for being offended by the term, and "supposidly not have accomplished anything"... it's taken my wife and myself over 20 years to reach a slightly upper middle-class income, and it was done all with hard work, continuing education, slowly climbing the ladder, and typical financial ups and downs. Anyone claiming it was "practically given to us" since we're white, needs to examine their own work ethics.
Beamer wrote on Apr 11, 2019, 08:25:
But here you are, all kinds of offended over words never even said. Yes, people can be offended over what is said, but you're imagining things to be angry. This is how sensitive and emotional you are.
If you step back and go "hey, maybe this isn't what's being said," you'd be a lot less emotional and a lot more able to think clearly about it. Instead, you're very determined to be slighted and belittled by words not slighting and belittling you.
Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:
1) No one ever says "all white males are neo-nazis." If you're hearing this, you need to listen more carefully. It's not what's being said, but it's what so many hear. This is why it's frequently said that white males are fragile - because so many of us hear a criticism and put the word "all" in front of it. I can separate myself from the complaints, most of which have a lot of validity
Quboid wrote on Apr 11, 2019, 20:29:No one said white males are neo-nazis so your straw man does not make any sense. As a matter of fact no one said white males are anything.Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:
1) No one ever says "all white males are neo-nazis." If you're hearing this, you need to listen more carefully. It's not what's being said, but it's what so many hear. This is why it's frequently said that white males are fragile - because so many of us hear a criticism and put the word "all" in front of it. I can separate myself from the complaints, most of which have a lot of validity
Would you say the same for the statement "black males are criminals"? Hey, no one's saying all black males, so it's not racist, right?
Quboid wrote on Apr 11, 2019, 20:29:Beamer wrote on Apr 10, 2019, 15:03:
1) No one ever says "all white males are neo-nazis." If you're hearing this, you need to listen more carefully. It's not what's being said, but it's what so many hear. This is why it's frequently said that white males are fragile - because so many of us hear a criticism and put the word "all" in front of it. I can separate myself from the complaints, most of which have a lot of validity
Would you say the same for the statement "black males are criminals"? Hey, no one's saying all black males, so it's not racist, right?
I agree with most of what you said - wtf_man appears to have learned everything he knows about this subject from conservative/nationalist talking heads complaining/lying about it. However, there are limits. Obviously the second statement is much stronger and has a lot of history behind it, but this sort of phrasing can be indicative of the same flawed way of thinking. I don't have a lot of time for people who's complaints are consistently of this nature because I think it indicates the same us-and-them mentality that the worst of the opposite view have.
Having said that, and as I've said before, the white male victim complex that has become so common in the last few years is remarkably pathetic. I do hope no one feels that they're the victim of anything because I said that...