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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 16:49
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 16:49
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TheGenk wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 10:36:
Creston wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 00:50:
Boeing is going to get so fucking sued.
Sure, but don't count on them getting convicted of anything.
Boeing is a U.S. company and afaik no U.S. citizens died, they're pretty much immune in courts.
I mean, look at Monsanto, for them to finally lose court cases all it took was them no longer being a U.S.-owned company.

You are probably right. That said, let's assume they get sued and lose. The largest settlement in US history is the tobacco lawsuit for $200B. That was a special and unique situation however. #2 is Enron, for $7B. What Boeing did is much less blatant than the massive fraud perpetrated by Enron execs. But let us assume they get hit for $10B, second largest in history. Boeing had $110 B in revenue last year. So $10B would hurt, but it would hardly be insurmountable. As someone mentioned, cancelled orders are likely to be many times that, and have a muchly greater effect.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 16:31
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 16:31
Mar 22, 2019, 16:31
 
TheGenk wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 10:36:
Creston wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 00:50:
Boeing is going to get so fucking sued.
Sure, but don't count on them getting convicted of anything.
Boeing is a U.S. company and afaik no U.S. citizens died, they're pretty much immune in courts.
I mean, look at Monsanto, for them to finally lose court cases all it took was them no longer being a U.S.-owned company.

In the end a good part of it will just be added to the Nat Debt #, tax payers will have to pay for it one way or the other, higher plane tickets, Nat Emergency $'s, something.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 13:03
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 13:03
Mar 22, 2019, 13:03
 
TheGenk wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 10:36:
Sure, but don't count on them getting convicted of anything.
Boeing is a U.S. company and afaik no U.S. citizens died, they're pretty much immune in courts.
I mean, look at Monsanto, for them to finally lose court cases all it took was them no longer being a U.S.-owned company.

Didn't eight Americans die in the Ethiopian crash?


Edit: Updated American victim count after some Googling.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 10:36
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 10:36
Mar 22, 2019, 10:36
 
Creston wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 00:50:
Boeing is going to get so fucking sued.
Sure, but don't count on them getting convicted of anything.
Boeing is a U.S. company and afaik no U.S. citizens died, they're pretty much immune in courts.
I mean, look at Monsanto, for them to finally lose court cases all it took was them no longer being a U.S.-owned company.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 06:18
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 06:18
Mar 22, 2019, 06:18
 
Nucas wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 04:57:
Simon Says wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 03:16:
Capitalism's structural violence strikes again.

-Boeing simply followed the structural incentive for self-maximization/profit maximization by making it an optional buy for more $

-The company that bought the plane also followed this structural incentive by not buying it so as to maximize profit per flight

Both are "guilty" of this "accident".

no no, you see, this is all accounted for in the free market. by not buying the additional safety options, the airlines are exerting consumer pressure and incentivizing competition. and that industrious spirit is the essence of the free market. sometimes hundreds and hundreds of people die pointlessly, but that's the price we pay for freedom.

Gotta love that sarcasm xD <3

And if it were only a few hundreds here and there

Almost 8 millions this year so far and counting... And that's only from starvation, it's not the whole count for structural violence. Meanwhile the obese count is at almost 827 millions. Food wasted this year so far at almost 158 million tons and counting.

State Capitalism ( "Communism" ): "I killed 100 millions in 100 years"

"Free Market" Capitalism: "Hold my beer, I can do that in less than 3"
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 05:55
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 05:55
Mar 22, 2019, 05:55
 
Creston wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 00:50:
Boeing is going to get so fucking sued.
I'd be shocked if they end up getting judgements against them which are not covered by their insurance.

Here where they get burned Indonesia's Garuda is canceling its $4.9 billion order for the Boeing 737 Max.

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 04:57
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 04:57
Mar 22, 2019, 04:57
 
Simon Says wrote on Mar 22, 2019, 03:16:
Capitalism's structural violence strikes again.

-Boeing simply followed the structural incentive for self-maximization/profit maximization by making it an optional buy for more $

-The company that bought the plane also followed this structural incentive by not buying it so as to maximize profit per flight

Both are "guilty" of this "accident".

no no, you see, this is all accounted for in the free market. by not buying the additional safety options, the airlines are exerting consumer pressure and incentivizing competition. and that industrious spirit is the essence of the free market. sometimes hundreds and hundreds of people die pointlessly, but that's the price we pay for freedom.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 03:16
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 03:16
Mar 22, 2019, 03:16
 
Capitalism's structural violence strikes again.

-Boeing simply followed the structural incentive for self-maximization/profit maximization by making it an optional buy for more $

-The company that bought the plane also followed this structural incentive by not buying it so as to maximize profit per flight

Both are "guilty" of this "accident".
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 22, 2019, 00:50
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 22, 2019, 00:50
Mar 22, 2019, 00:50
 
Boeing is going to get so fucking sued.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 21, 2019, 23:04
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 21, 2019, 23:04
Mar 21, 2019, 23:04
 
Best comment from Ars:

The next logical progression is offering loot crates to the pilots.

For just 100 BoeingCrystals you have chance to unlock cool skins for the aircraft, various unique pilot's hats to impress your friends, and if you are very lucky you could even get an Ultra-Rare Shiny Legendary Purple Tier critical flight control system that will help you keep the plane in the air!
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Follow The Money
Mar 21, 2019, 21:04
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Follow The Money Mar 21, 2019, 21:04
Mar 21, 2019, 21:04
 

Boeing made $827,000 in political contributions in February, that's the most Boeing has ever donated in a single month to political campaigns.

Follow The Money

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 21, 2019, 20:23
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 21, 2019, 20:23
Mar 21, 2019, 20:23
 
the best/worst part is, they're still only making one of the features standard in future planes. still charging for the other one. greedy fucks.
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Re: Morning Mobilization
Mar 21, 2019, 20:18
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Re: Morning Mobilization Mar 21, 2019, 20:18
Mar 21, 2019, 20:18
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These optional features would not have helped. The real problems were the extremely poor design of the MCAS system, failure to ensure adequate maintenance and training, and paying off the politicians to avoid proper oversight.
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