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Epic's Sweeney Calls Exclusives "PROCOMPETITIVE"

DSOGaming notes a series of posts on Reddit from Tim Sweeney have more from the Epic Games CEO on what's going on in the Epic Games Store, where Epic's discounted take is adding a little disruption to the online games market. One post on Reddit Sweeney defends the practice of signing games to exclusive distribution deals, saying that this is a "PROCOMPETITIVE issue and the PC remains an open platform." Here's a bit:
Yes, and the PC remains open, and there is more robust competition among PC stores than ever before. There's Steam offering Valve games, Origin offering EA games, Battle.net offering Activision and Bungie games, Epic Games offering games from many publishers.

I get that you guys don't like store-exclusive games, but that's a completely separate, and PROCOMPETITIVE issue, compared to closing down platforms like Windows to monopolize distribution, as iOS does, and as Microsoft was trying to do with UWP and locked-down versions of Windows -- which failed, and whose proponents are now gone and replaced with great leaders like Satya Nadella and Phil Spencer who are driving Windows forward as an open platform!
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69. Re: Epic's Sweeney Calls Exclusives Mar 19, 2019, 08:05  dsmart 
 
Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 20:23:
Deep Silver made an obligation to customers that the game would be available for sale on Steam (until it wasn't). Phoenix Point had an obligation to backers to be available on Steam and GOG (now, it's not). That's why people are reasonably angered. If third-party publishers want to go exclusive, then do it from the beginning not after the fact. Nothing angers people more than changing expectations.

Ah yeah, those are valid but completely different issues (which I've also written about in my Twitter threads). Epic offered them money for exclusives. Couple that with the higher royalty rates, and the fact that discovery (aside from the toxicity) issues on Steam have gone from bad to worse, I don't know any dev who wouldn't take that deal. I know I would (I've done exclusives before).

That's not Epic's fault. They're using their financial war chest to get exclusives in order to seed their store. Gamers should be upset at the devs; especially at the Phoenix Point devs because that game was crowd-funded (47K people) with the promise that it would be coming to two stores; and now it's not.

As I said in my thread, there are more (most of them at AA or AAA) exclusives coming this year and which are yet to be announced. A lot of people are going to be very upset all over again. Especially since Epic isn't interested in games that are a long way off. They are looking for games are almost finished and due out in few months only.

 
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