We’re updating our User Agreement and Privacy Policy, the documents that govern our relationship with you.
Why?
We want to let you know about few changes: (1) We’re adding a new functionality - GOG Direct to Account that will enable partnered platforms to activate, directly on your GOG.COM account, content purchased via these selected third party platforms; (2) we’re concluding the Fair Price Package program that some users were eligible for. For more details please see here. (3) We’ve also refreshed our Voluntary Refund Policy now offering refunds for GOG Wallet funds.
What?
We wanted to reflect all this in our policies. Plus we did some minor tidying up of the documents. You can see the updated terms here.
How?
We’re notifying you now by email, the updated versions are on the GOG.COM website and the changes take effect 30 days from now (you'll find more information about this in our User Agreement).
Do I need to do anything?
Nope.
What if I have questions?
Please contact us here and we’ll be happy to help.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 28, 2019, 06:39:
If we were talking about an enterprise backup solution, we'd be discussing a level of cost that is beyond the average consumer. However, we're not discussing that are we? We're discussing robust, functional, and manageable NAS deployments that provide redundancy and resiliency. Two key points your solution would utterly fail a simple audit on.
MeanJim wrote on Feb 28, 2019, 04:14:
It's a perfectly viable backup strategy in the context of this discussion. We're not talking about an enterprise backup solution in a corporate environment, we're talking backing up game installers from GOG FFS.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 20:57:MeanJim wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 20:44:
You must have missed the part about where I use several drives....I have more redundant copies at a fraction of the cost of a NAS
No, I didn't but claiming a half-assed JBOD is a viable and valid backup strategy is, well, laughable.
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 17:26:
So here's the truth:
I don't care to save 10$ on a video game. I use steam because it's easy and convenient for me to use. I understand I can buy from GOG and then put the key into steam for example but why would I even bother looking there.
I'm not the only middle aged man with cash and not enough time that does this I'm assuming.
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 17:26:
So here's the truth:
I don't care to save 10$ on a video game. I use steam because it's easy and convenient for me to use. I understand I can buy from GOG and then put the key into steam for example but why would I even bother looking there.
I'm not the only middle aged man with cash and not enough time that does this I'm assuming.
MeanJim wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 20:44:
You must have missed the part about where I use several drives....I have more redundant copies at a fraction of the cost of a NAS
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 16:26:RedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 15:58:MeanJim wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 15:45:good ideas...RedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 10:54:
I really don't feel like coughing up $950 dollars for a NAS to safeguard my $517 gog library. smh
edit
The WD 10TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0100HBK-NESN
is $159 deal of the day at Amazon. Good for shucking and filling up those nas holes.
You don't need a fancy NAS or big ass USB3 drive just to backup your games. You can get a a USB3/eSATA dock pretty cheap and use old/spare drives or just buy regular old drives to backup to. I have an eSATA dock (also works in USB3), and several drives I backup to, plus a USB3 drive I keep important files on and stored in a fire safe. I like to have redundant backups. Most of my backup drives are old drives from past systems that otherwise would be collecting dust.
...if you don't care about your data.
Using old drives is like using old, used condoms. Sure, they might work for a bit but do you really want to trust in them to prevent a life altering disaster?
CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 17:00:WaltC wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 16:27:
I agree with this...nothing here really to make one think they were in any kind of financial straits. It's not even clear that GOG is in the "red" (except of course for CDPRed...;))
The GOG segment did in fact post a loss for Q3/2018 and for the first nine months of 2018.
In Q3/2018 the GOG segment reported an operating loss of 835,000 PLN which is ~US$ 220,000.
Likewise, they reported an operating loss of PLN 1,365,000 for the first nine months of 2018 which is about ~US$360K.
In 2017 they still reported profits for both periods. It is pretty clear that fading Witcher sales and a disappointing market acceptance of their standalone GWENT game has resulted in a poor performance throughout 2018.The GOG.com segment also obtains revenues from microtransactions carried out in the framework of GWENT: The Witcher Card Game. The corresponding revenues depend on gamer interest, as well as on the game’s publishing schedule, including milestones such as the launch of the public beta (Q2 2017) and major updates (e.g. new card sets).
Revenues associated with GWENT leveled off in the second and third quarters of 2018, in association with the ongoing Homecoming project.
... and (they try to make it sound better than it is)...Both in Q3 2018 and in the nine-month period since the beginning of the year the Group reported lower sales revenues in the GOG.com segment compared to the corresponding reference periods in 2017. Aggregate sales revenues in the first three quarters of 2018 were 92 685 thousand PLN, i.e. 28% lower than in the corresponding period in 2017. In Q3 the segment generated 28 109 thousand PLN in sales revenues, i.e. 16% less than in Q3 2017. Nevertheless, when denominated in USD (the primary transaction currency for GOG.com sales), total revenues from online sales carried out via GOG.com and GOG Galaxy for products licensed from external suppliers (i.e. not affected by the release schedule of CD PROJEKT RED), aggregated over the nine-month period between 1 January and 30 September 2018, were 24 732 USD, which represents a 22% increase compared to the reference period in 2017
... and here is why they no longer do the fair price thing (eliminating regional pricing by giving customers store credit)...The average USD/PLN exchange rate at the close of each trading day comprising the first nine months of 2018 was 3.56, compared to 3.84 in the reference period in 2017. Given that 94% of the Capital Group’s sales in Q1-Q3 2018 were exports, this strengthening of PLN against USD (based on the abovementioned average exchange rates) means that for each dollar collected in payments during Q1-Q3 2018 GOG.com’s revenues were 0.28 PLN lower than during the reference period (a decrease of more than 7%).Moreover, during the first half of the current year the ratio between the reported value of goods and materials sold and the corresponding revenues from sales of goods and materials (i.e. gross sales profit) was impacted by the unfavorable relation between the average exchange rates for each day of a given month, and the exchange rate in force on the final day of that month. More information regarding this issue may be found in the commentary section attached to GOG.com results in the Management Board report on CD PROJEKT Capital Group activities for the period between 1 January and 30 June 2018
Source
WaltC wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 16:27:
I agree with this...nothing here really to make one think they were in any kind of financial straits. It's not even clear that GOG is in the "red" (except of course for CDPRed...;))
The GOG.com segment also obtains revenues from microtransactions carried out in the framework of GWENT: The Witcher Card Game. The corresponding revenues depend on gamer interest, as well as on the game’s publishing schedule, including milestones such as the launch of the public beta (Q2 2017) and major updates (e.g. new card sets).
Revenues associated with GWENT leveled off in the second and third quarters of 2018, in association with the ongoing Homecoming project.
Both in Q3 2018 and in the nine-month period since the beginning of the year the Group reported lower sales revenues in the GOG.com segment compared to the corresponding reference periods in 2017. Aggregate sales revenues in the first three quarters of 2018 were 92 685 thousand PLN, i.e. 28% lower than in the corresponding period in 2017. In Q3 the segment generated 28 109 thousand PLN in sales revenues, i.e. 16% less than in Q3 2017. Nevertheless, when denominated in USD (the primary transaction currency for GOG.com sales), total revenues from online sales carried out via GOG.com and GOG Galaxy for products licensed from external suppliers (i.e. not affected by the release schedule of CD PROJEKT RED), aggregated over the nine-month period between 1 January and 30 September 2018, were 24 732 USD, which represents a 22% increase compared to the reference period in 2017
The average USD/PLN exchange rate at the close of each trading day comprising the first nine months of 2018 was 3.56, compared to 3.84 in the reference period in 2017. Given that 94% of the Capital Group’s sales in Q1-Q3 2018 were exports, this strengthening of PLN against USD (based on the abovementioned average exchange rates) means that for each dollar collected in payments during Q1-Q3 2018 GOG.com’s revenues were 0.28 PLN lower than during the reference period (a decrease of more than 7%).Moreover, during the first half of the current year the ratio between the reported value of goods and materials sold and the corresponding revenues from sales of goods and materials (i.e. gross sales profit) was impacted by the unfavorable relation between the average exchange rates for each day of a given month, and the exchange rate in force on the final day of that month. More information regarding this issue may be found in the commentary section attached to GOG.com results in the Management Board report on CD PROJEKT Capital Group activities for the period between 1 January and 30 June 2018
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 12:30:
The fact that you can't mass download your files easily on GoG is one my greatest annoyances with that site. Yeah, I only own 70 games on there, and that number won't increase now with the price increaes, but I want my backups now because doesn't seem like GoG will exist forever.
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 12:34:
Gog is going to be fine; this Direct to Account aspect should let them sell Gog Keys easier through resellers, Humble Bundles, other stores, etc.
Gog has had that wording or something close to it in their EULA for awhile now(about downloading copies, etc.)
Don't forget that CDProjekt RED is lurking behind, hopefully still overflowing with Witcher money.![]()
All of that said, hopefully these moves put Gog back into the black financially.
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 15:58:MeanJim wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 15:45:good ideas...RedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 10:54:
I really don't feel like coughing up $950 dollars for a NAS to safeguard my $517 gog library. smh
edit
The WD 10TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0100HBK-NESN
is $159 deal of the day at Amazon. Good for shucking and filling up those nas holes.
You don't need a fancy NAS or big ass USB3 drive just to backup your games. You can get a a USB3/eSATA dock pretty cheap and use old/spare drives or just buy regular old drives to backup to. I have an eSATA dock (also works in USB3), and several drives I backup to, plus a USB3 drive I keep important files on and stored in a fire safe. I like to have redundant backups. Most of my backup drives are old drives from past systems that otherwise would be collecting dust.
MeanJim wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 15:45:good ideas, thanksRedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 10:54:
I really don't feel like coughing up $950 dollars for a NAS to safeguard my $517 gog library. smh
edit
The WD 10TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0100HBK-NESN
is $159 deal of the day at Amazon. Good for shucking and filling up those nas holes.
You don't need a fancy NAS or big ass USB3 drive just to backup your games. You can get a a USB3/eSATA dock pretty cheap and use old/spare drives or just buy regular old drives to backup to. I have an eSATA dock (also works in USB3), and several drives I backup to, plus a USB3 drive I keep important files on and stored in a fire safe. I like to have redundant backups. Most of my backup drives are old drives from past systems that otherwise would be collecting dust.
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 27, 2019, 10:54:
I really don't feel like coughing up $950 dollars for a NAS to safeguard my $517 gog library. smh
edit
The WD 10TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0100HBK-NESN
is $159 deal of the day at Amazon. Good for shucking and filling up those nas holes.