More PUBG Anti-Cheat Efforts [Feb 26, 2019, 11:01 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
A Letter from the Anti-Cheat Team on Steam outlines their latest effort to
root out miscreants cheating at PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS, the battle
royale shooter. Word is: "Each game of PUBG sees up to 100 users trying to beat
already incredible odds. We understand that even one person playing unfairly can
severely impact the fun of so many people, and thus we need to maintain a much
higher level of security than other games." They call this a "quick update," but
it's actually quite lengthy, covering reinforcement of technical measures,
improvement of anti-cheat solutions, unauthorized program detection
improvements, addressing vulnerabilities in the Steam system, and increased
legal action. Since that last topic is the least common, here's more on related
legal actions in Asia:
Hack programs that hinder a fair game environment are important to block, but those who develop, promote, and sell hack programs should always be a primary target as well. To prevent the spread of hack programs, we are working with law enforcement authorities and overseas offices to take strong legal actions both at home and abroad. Below is the outcome of the legal actions taken in 2018, and for the CN region, it is a result of close cooperation with Tencent.
- Arrested 41 in Lianyungang, China in January, 2018
- Arrested 3 in Huai'an, China in February, 2018
- Arrested 11 in Xiangyang, China in February, 2018
- Arrested 141 in Nanjing, China in April, 2018
- Arrested 1 in Huai'an, China in April, 2018
- Arrested 6 by Daejeon Metropolitan Police Agency, Korea in August, 2018
- Arrested 1 in Wenzhou, China in September, 2018
- Arrested 3 in Tangshan, China in October, 2018
- Arrested 34 in Wenzhou, China in October, 2018
- Arrested 11 by Yangcheon Police Station, Korea in October, 2018
In addition to the outcomes mentioned above, we are currently investigating hack programs sales with The Korean National Police Agency, law firms, and copyright protection agencies along with tracking the hack developers themselves. We will keep you updated as new investigation results become available.
Dev wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 23:52:Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 22:09:Blanket statement that can easily be disproved by a single counter example. I've seen an EA game in the past that sold cheat codes as a DLC.
Developers do not sell cheats for their game, period.
Note: I'm not weighing in on anything other than this. I see blanket statements and my mind immediately starts thinking of counter examples
Ok, where's your counter example? You say one exists, but you don't provide it.
Also, something happening once doesn't disprove things.
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RedEye9 wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 11:39:Reminder that those people arrested in Korea, were doing so in pro esports and various ladder games used for ranking.
China is not the only one doing the world a favor;
Arrested 11 by Yangcheon Police Station, Korea in October, 2018
Arrested 6 by Daejeon Metropolitan Police Agency, Korea in August, 2018
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Reminds me of how US law and order folks like to crow about all the individuals they sent to prison over drugs, all the while ignoring the drug cartels. Politics 101, always persecute those who are least able to defend themselves. Not saying these people were innocent. You know this will have almost 0 effect on the numbers of cheaters in these games.
Reminds me of how US law and order folks like to crow about all the individuals they sent to prison over drugs, all the while ignoring the drug cartels. Politics 101, always persecute those who are least able to defend themselves. Not saying these people were innocent. You know this will have almost 0 effect on the numbers of cheaters in these games.
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 22:09:Blanket statement that can easily be disproved by a single counter example. I've seen an EA game in the past that sold cheat codes as a DLC.
Developers do not sell cheats for their game, period.
Note: I'm not weighing in on anything other than this. I see blanket statements and my mind immediately starts thinking of counter examples
VaranDragon wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 14:51:Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 14:37:Simon Says wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 14:31:eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 10:25:
Making AND selling cheats is organized crime
As far as I'm concerned, if there's no victim having his or her free will infringed, there's no "crime".
This is BS...
It's not about infringing free will. It's about stealing money from those who created the game.
Morality is really warped in today's society.
So if developers developed cheat codes for their own games and marketed them and sold them, would that constitute a crime?
You're mixing apples and oranges, cheating in games only affects the bottom line of the developers indirectly, it DIRECTLY affects the non-cheating players of the games, destroying their enjoyment of the game. This is where the worst part of the "crime" lies IMO.
Why is this even a discussion? Developers do not sell cheats for their game, period. They also do not support cheaters in online games and will ban anyone who is caught cheating including firing employees who engage in cheating for monetary gain.
The most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
Cutter wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 20:31:Judge: Could you have done anything besides murder those 3 innocent tourists.Dacote wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:57:Cutter wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:39:Yes, One could argue that, but they would be laughed out of every court in the world.Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 13:54:
People who make cheats for online games affect the monetary livelihoods of those who created the game. In effect, cheat creators steal. So yes, it's a crime, and even more so if they charge for cheats.
Yes, but you could argue that this is a problem - in part at least - of their own making because they don't allow players to host their and moderate their own servers.
No it wouldn't. In fact every judge would ask that question. If there are alternatives, why aren't you taking them? Get an education, kid.
Accused: Yes, I could have been playing pinochle.
Judge: Case Dismissed.
When a person violates the law; Whether it was driving drunk, not paying taxes, selling drugs, practicing medicine w/out a license or selling Hack Programs.
The judge does not ask if there was an alternative.
Once again it's you who needs to get an education.
Dacote wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:57:Cutter wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:39:Yes, One could argue that, but they would be laughed out of every court in the world.Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 13:54:
People who make cheats for online games affect the monetary livelihoods of those who created the game. In effect, cheat creators steal. So yes, it's a crime, and even more so if they charge for cheats.
Yes, but you could argue that this is a problem - in part at least - of their own making because they don't allow players to host their and moderate their own servers.
No it wouldn't. In fact every judge would ask that question. If there are alternatives, why aren't you taking them? Get an education, kid.
I just skimmed, but one thing to consider is that when I am killed by a cheater, my ability to acquire items WORTH money is diminished. Thus there is a financial loss on my part (no matter how small) as I lose the ability to purchase the lewts.
A few things to consider, it is China and Best Korea.....so laws are a lot different. Cheats are cheats, maybe they need to get better at detecting them and pump the brakes on the cosmetics.
Lazy ass programmers.
Don't care either way, game is dead to me. Will never go back.
/not sure why it is so toxic in here.....lots of hurt feelings for some reason.
A few things to consider, it is China and Best Korea.....so laws are a lot different. Cheats are cheats, maybe they need to get better at detecting them and pump the brakes on the cosmetics.
Lazy ass programmers.
Don't care either way, game is dead to me. Will never go back.
/not sure why it is so toxic in here.....lots of hurt feelings for some reason.
NKD wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 18:20:The US does the same thing. If you don't like going to jail then don't break the law.
Don't really like governments just swooping in and arresting people based on what some corporation wants, but thats how they roll in China and these dudes probably knew that going in.
Don't really like governments just swooping in and arresting people based on what some corporation wants, but thats how they roll in China and these dudes probably knew that going in.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
VaranDragon wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:53:
Also since we're throwing around false equivavelences all over the place, would you send someone to pound-em-in-the-ass prison for cheating on their wife?
That's cheating too, right?
Adultery is a crime in the US military, for example. There are many countries in the world where adultery is not only a crime resulting jail time, but sometimes the death penalty.
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Beamer wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:09:
But if the enjoyment is destroyed, they do not play it. If they do not play it, they do not buy DLC or microtransactions. They do not convince their friends to play it.
Right, it affects the developer reputation, impacting sales of the current game and future games produced by said developer.
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Simon Says wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 14:31:eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 10:25:
Making AND selling cheats is organized crime
As far as I'm concerned, if there's no victim having his or her free will infringed, there's no "crime".
This is BS...
I'm not following your logic here. If these were offline SP games, I would agree no harm, no foul. However, online competitive games rely on having all players compete under a common ruleset. Cheaters and cheat software makers undermine the integrity of the game, driving players away. There's no difference between this and athletes who dope in the Olympics.
RIP RedEye9. We miss you.
I guess there are also levels for everything. If someone is playing a game for money such as an eSport event and is caught cheating, thus forfeiting them from winning lots of $$$, then it's Okay to punish them because they were trying to earn $$$ based off the cheat.
Since we play for no money, the rules change and it's Okay to allow it to happen? Does the entertainment factor change in playing for fun vs eSport? Probably, but in the grand scheme, it shouldn't. We are supposed to be playing the exact same game that we initially paid for, I just choose not to create a profession out of it.
Since we play for no money, the rules change and it's Okay to allow it to happen? Does the entertainment factor change in playing for fun vs eSport? Probably, but in the grand scheme, it shouldn't. We are supposed to be playing the exact same game that we initially paid for, I just choose not to create a profession out of it.
Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 13:52:Arrested 11 by Yangcheon Police Station, Korea in October, 2018
wat?!
Not sure why surprised?
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Timmeh wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 10:16:
Having people arrested and put in prison because they help people cheat in your *Video Game* is far more immoral that those making the cheats.
You scum are having people put in prison in CHINA you complete utter scum. Thus i will never play or pay a dime to your slimy company.
You mad bro?
Good!
I hope they rot.
VaranDragon wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:53:
Also since we're throwing around false equivavelences all over the place, would you send someone to pound-em-in-the-ass prison for cheating on their wife?
That's cheating too, right?
Mmm, I know there are plenty of trophy wives out there that might constitute as "bought" wives, but for the majority of us, we didn't pay for our wives with our $$$. Nor was there any written form stating cheating wasn't allowed (it's not always in the vows).
I'm paying for my entertainment and don't see why it should be allowed to be spoiled by some a-holes that hate their life.
don't believe those arrests in China will do anything... The whole Chinese gov systems can be "cheated"
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Cutter wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 15:39:Yes, One could argue that, but they would be laughed out of every court in the world.Kxmode wrote on Feb 26, 2019, 13:54:
People who make cheats for online games affect the monetary livelihoods of those who created the game. In effect, cheat creators steal. So yes, it's a crime, and even more so if they charge for cheats.
Yes, but you could argue that this is a problem - in part at least - of their own making because they don't allow players to host their and moderate their own servers.
Also since we're throwing around false equivavelences all over the place, would you send someone to pound-em-in-the-ass prison for cheating on their wife?
That's cheating too, right?
That's cheating too, right?
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