CIG on RTX and Star Citizen

A thread on the Roberts Space Industries forums explores the potential impact of supporting NVIDIA's new RTX technology in Star Citizen, Cloud Imperium's long-in-development space game(s). This is from a couple of weeks ago, before being uncovered by DSOGaming. A supporter presented an odd theory that supporting this would "save you devs so much work farther along and look absolutely spanking." CIG's Ben Parry disagreed, saying, "Not in the slightest. I expect, if we use it, it'll be a massive headache and time-sink but might give us some subtle improvements in looks or performance if we get it right." He expresses doubts that they will pursue this, saying: "I'd love to, it looks like fun, but at the moment we have other high priority tasks on the roadmap." In another post, he describes more of what he thinks supporting RTX would entail:

It's more likely to be a case of "We've got a test-bed scene for a ray-based environment lighting technique, it works for one type of light so far, here's a list of things you can no longer safely have in a room without it breaking, with rough probabilities of how likely we are to work out a solution" ☻

The added headache is that whatever we offered would have to be an "as well" feature rather than an "instead", developing a feature for a single manufacturer's top-end cards means also maintaining feature parity for everyone else's hardware.

Personally I'd like to use it to make the shadows crispier.

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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 12:29
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 12:29
Feb 17, 2019, 12:29
 
fake news
CIG has never met a tech that they won't encorporate into SC.
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 12:31
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Feb 17, 2019, 12:31
 
So when you don't ask them straight away, they toss in everything.

Ask them straight away, I doubt it, we have other big things to do.

Humans, it's how we work.
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 12:37
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Feb 17, 2019, 12:37
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Clever strategy - now they got ray-tracing card to play later once they need more reasons to explain why they still need a few more decades to finish the game.

2020/21: "CIG stating that because of so many requests they have just started to implement ray-tracing - sorry to tell its fans it means no beta until 2024/25"
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 12:42
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Feb 17, 2019, 12:42
 
Wait, they're rejecting implementing superfluous technology in favor of working on the game?

WHO ARE YOU, AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH STAR CITIZEN?
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 13:54
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Feb 17, 2019, 13:54
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 12:42:
Wait, they're rejecting implementing superfluous technology in favor of working on the game?

WHO ARE YOU, AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH STAR CITIZEN?

Yeah, this is literally the first time they have answered with a pretty straightforward "NO". Usually whenever someone suggested another "feature" they could implement into the "game" it was met with an emphatic "YES, SURE, OF COURSE WHY THE FUCK NOT!?"
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 13:58
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Feb 17, 2019, 13:58
 
El Pit wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 12:37:
Clever strategy - now they got ray-tracing card to play later once they need more reasons to explain why they still need a few more decades to finish the game.

2020/21: "CIG stating that because of so many requests they have just started to implement ray-tracing - sorry to tell its fans it means no beta until 2024/25"

Don't forget the special edition RTX ship for only $10k
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 14:32
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 14:32
Feb 17, 2019, 14:32
 
"Crisp shadows"...as opposed to soggy?
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 14:51
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 14:51
Feb 17, 2019, 14:51
 
Wait, CR has found another feature he wants to put in his never-ending game crowdfunded employment venture, and then they WON'T use it?

WAAAAAAA...???


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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 14:52
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Feb 17, 2019, 14:52
 
El Pit wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 12:37:
Clever strategy - now they got ray-tracing card to play later once they need more reasons to explain why they still need a few more decades to finish the game.

2020/21: "CIG stating that because of so many requests they have just started to implement ray-tracing - sorry to tell its fans it means no beta until 2024/25"

Yeah I think that was probably everyone's first thought. 'Our adoption of ray-tracing has will cause and addition 2 years of development time. Which means we're going to need you all to cough up another 100 mil, kthnx!'
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 14:57
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 14:57
Feb 17, 2019, 14:57
 
Has hell frozen over? Granted, the reply is from Ben Parry and not cult leader Christ Roberts but this is the FIRST TIME EVAH I have seen one of those maggots say 'no' to adopting new tech.
Does Chris even agree with Ben? Where the fuck is Sherlock Holmes* when you need him most? Someone investigate this shit plz!

On a related note... I'm still waiting for the Mantle support that was promised a few years back!


*P.S.: Dear Sherlock... while you are at it maybe you could also investigate why Chris has only appeared once (January 3rd) and why Sandi has not appeared in a single 'Around the Verse' episode this year while both used to present the format in tandem throughout nearly all of 2018?

Well? Hm? Does it have something to do with the investor stuff? Did Chris and Sandi ride off into the Star Shitizen sunset? Where are they? Caribbean yacht? Jail? Rehab? Recovering from facial beauty surgery? Where?

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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 15:15
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 15:15
Feb 17, 2019, 15:15
 
OK, guys, I just got off the phone with Sherlock and he says Chris and Sandi have actually been eaten by Erin. "Heavy", burdening proof here.
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 16:41
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Feb 17, 2019, 16:41
 
Pigeon wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 13:58:
El Pit wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 12:37:
Clever strategy - now they got ray-tracing card to play later once they need more reasons to explain why they still need a few more decades to finish the game.

2020/21: "CIG stating that because of so many requests they have just started to implement ray-tracing - sorry to tell its fans it means no beta until 2024/25"

Don't forget the special edition RTX ship for only $10k

Price seems low...
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 16:43
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CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 15:15:
OK, guys, I just got off the phone with Sherlock and he says Chris and Sandi have actually been eaten by Erin. "Heavy", burdening proof here.

This needs to become part of the Mueller inquiry.
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Feb 17, 2019, 17:34
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Feb 17, 2019, 17:34
 Kxmode
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 15:15:
OK, guys, I just got off the phone with Sherlock and he says Chris and Sandi have actually been eaten by Erin. "Heavy", burdening proof here.

TIL cannibalism is legal in the UK. Note to self: don't travel to the UK. :P
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 18:48
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 18:48
Feb 17, 2019, 18:48
 
Don't worry folks, you'll be able to rebuy RTX versions of your ships soon.
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Feb 17, 2019, 21:05
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Feb 17, 2019, 21:05
 
hoolaparara wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 18:48:
Don't worry folks, you'll be able to rebuy RTX versions of your ships soon.

25% off, while supplies last!
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 23:13
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen Feb 17, 2019, 23:13
Feb 17, 2019, 23:13
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hoolaparara wrote on Feb 17, 2019, 18:48:
Don't worry folks, you'll be able to rebuy RTX versions of your ships soon.

RTX has nothing to do with geometry and textures. It's about real-time ray tracing, artificial intelligence, and programmable shading. Two of those are related to lighting and the other is related to how NPCs function. But I assume you knew that already and were joking.
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Re: CIG on RTX and Star Citizen
Feb 17, 2019, 23:42
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Feb 17, 2019, 23:42
 
dont worry folks, lets get raytracing working before we get game finished.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 17, 2019, 23:57
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Feb 17, 2019, 23:57
 
Oh great another year of dev time so they can get RTX shit implemented. Whats the expected release date now? 2050?
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 18, 2019, 01:44
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 18, 2019, 01:44
Feb 18, 2019, 01:44
 
Guys, you are all missing the point … what is important is that more people give Chris Roberts money.

Also, I don't know if RTX will help to make Sandi Gardiner a Hollywood actresses or not and that is an important part of Star Citizen/SQ42
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