Prez wrote on Feb 12, 2019, 08:18:

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 15:53:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:52:

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:06:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
Idiots - Metro Exodus was never exclusive to Steam. You could buy it anywhere. As many publishers do, the makers of the game had decided of their own volition to use Steam as their DRM. This isn't fucking hard. It's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Oh, so I could download and install it from Itch.io, GOG, UBISoft, Steam, Humble and the Epic Store. I didn't know that. No wonder the outrage.

Sarcasm doesn't work when you aren't clever enough to use it while making your point obvious. In that light, what is your point here exactly?

If you're not clever enough to catch it then I don't see how explaining it would help.

How typical. I can never tell if you're just a pretty bad troll or a simpleton. But regardless, I won't lose a wink of sleep over it.

clever girl

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 15:53:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:52:

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:06:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
Idiots - Metro Exodus was never exclusive to Steam. You could buy it anywhere. As many publishers do, the makers of the game had decided of their own volition to use Steam as their DRM. This isn't fucking hard. It's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Oh, so I could download and install it from Itch.io, GOG, UBISoft, Steam, Humble and the Epic Store. I didn't know that. No wonder the outrage.

Sarcasm doesn't work when you aren't clever enough to use it while making your point obvious. In that light, what is your point here exactly?

If you're not clever enough to catch it then I don't see how explaining it would help.

How typical. I can never tell if you're just a pretty bad troll or a simpleton. But regardless, I won't lose a wink of sleep over it.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 12, 2019, 02:36:
Oh. You cut deep. I'm wounded.

In all seriousness hassling someone over spelling it Project instead of Projekt is such a trivial thing. They mean the same. Case in point, even Chrome's spell checker flags Projekt as a misspelling and offers Project as the correct spelling.

Just saying...

Hey, I didn't mean to "hurt" you.

But Chrome's spell checker maybe flags Projekt as misspelling because Chrome is using English language to check it an thinks the eastern Projekt is a mistake?

Also - how would some guy called Miller in the US like it if people from Austria/Switzerland/Germany would call him Müller here in the forum?

It's no biggie, but I think it is a sign of courtesy to use the proper name... KXModus.

El Pit wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:23:

Kxmode wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:14:

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:21:

Fion wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:03:
CD Project Red

* CD Projekt, dude. Literally first sentence of the newsbit and you still spell it wrong. Now go wash your sticky fingers and lurn 2 sp3LL!

Projekt is the European (German, Polish, etc) spelling of the word "Project." It's fine to spell it either way since they both mean the same thing.

As you wish, KXModus.

Oh. You cut deep. I'm wounded.

In all seriousness hassling someone over spelling it Project instead of Projekt is such a trivial thing. They mean the same. Case in point, even Chrome's spell checker flags Projekt as a misspelling and offers Project as the correct spelling.

Just saying...

Spektr wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 16:16:
If you are a Steam addict, you can add a non Steam game to Steam right? I know the button but never actually used that feature. Can one get the workshop mods that way?

You can, but the game lacks all the features a game sold on Steam would have, thereby making Steam nothing more than a glorified launcher; like Epic's Store.

This comment was edited on Feb 12, 2019, 03:58.

Creston wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 16:43:
I don't think you can add a non-steam game (that IS sold on Steam)

It depends on the game, some you can. There used to be a list on the Steam forums, but it seems that has vanished (it was woefully out of date anyway).

Some that I can think of are Age of Empires III (though not MY Age of Empires III for some stupid reason...), several of the Warhammer games, some Borderlands games, Sins of a Solar Empire, SupCom and SupCom 2, and so on. Lots of EA stuff (Battlefield, C&Cs) used to be this way until they got angry and took their ball home with them to Origin.

You just go up to Games, and then select Activate a product on Steam. Put in your serial and it will pop up like you bought it on Steam.

Spektr wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 16:16:
If you are a Steam addict, you can add a non Steam game to Steam right? I know the button but never actually used that feature. Can one get the workshop mods that way?

No, because a non-steam game (or game that steam does have in it's inventory) would not have a workshop. But you can still use mods from other places like moddb, nexus and gamebanana. So it really should not be an issue.

Spektr wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 16:16:
If you are a Steam addict, you can add a non Steam game to Steam right? I know the button but never actually used that feature. Can one get the workshop mods that way?

It's just a launcher, like basically putting an icon on your desktop.
I do it for some things. It doesn't give you access to much in Steam, but it lets you use the Steam Link.

Spektr wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 16:16:
If you are a Steam addict, you can add a non Steam game to Steam right? I know the button but never actually used that feature. Can one get the workshop mods that way?

There wouldn't be a workshop for a game that's not actually ON Steam, and I don't think you can add a non-steam game (that IS sold on Steam), and then use the Workshop for that game, but admittedly I've never tried that.

If you are a Steam addict, you can add a non Steam game to Steam right? I know the button but never actually used that feature. Can one get the workshop mods that way?

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:52:

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:06:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
Idiots - Metro Exodus was never exclusive to Steam. You could buy it anywhere. As many publishers do, the makers of the game had decided of their own volition to use Steam as their DRM. This isn't fucking hard. It's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Oh, so I could download and install it from Itch.io, GOG, UBISoft, Steam, Humble and the Epic Store. I didn't know that. No wonder the outrage.

Sarcasm doesn't work when you aren't clever enough to use it while making your point obvious. In that light, what is your point here exactly?

If you're not clever enough to catch it then I don't see how explaining it would help.

Beamer wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:15:

Kxmode wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:12:
Exclusivity for PC games is the astroturf of building brand loyalty. At the end of the day, most won't stay on Epic's store to buy games beyond using it to play Metro Exodus, if they reluctantly bought it there.

Yes, this is obvious and literally every single person on the planet knows this. However, if you can tell me how Epic can get a few hundred thousand people to purchase on the platform at the end of this week, I'm sure I can pass it along to Mark Rein and get you a job there. Anywhere, really.

The "How" isn't about what Epic does but more about there being a measure of hype surrounding the game that will grow closer to its Friday launch. "If they reluctantly bought it there" implies some will cave in and buy it. That number you threw out is probably accurate. Instead of a couple million units sold on many platforms, the game will likely get a few hundred thousand units sold from Epic alone.

This comment was edited on Feb 12, 2019, 02:28.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:14:

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:21:

Fion wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:03:
CD Project Red

* CD Projekt, dude. Literally first sentence of the newsbit and you still spell it wrong. Now go wash your sticky fingers and lurn 2 sp3LL!

Projekt is the European (German, Polish, etc) spelling of the word "Project." It's fine to spell it either way since they both mean the same thing.

As you wish, KXModus.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:14:

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:21:

Fion wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:03:
CD Project Red

* CD Projekt, dude. Literally first sentence of the newsbit and you still spell it wrong. Now go wash your sticky fingers and lurn 2 sp3LL!

Projekt is the European (German, Polish, etc) spelling of the word "Project." It's fine to spell it either way since they both mean the same thing.

I don't think the first guy was much worth correcting, especially since it could have been an autocorrect, but you're 1005 incorrect. It's a proper name. A proper name is not fine "either way." It's like if your name is Viktor, would you be ok with everyone saying "Victor?" You'd probably want people to spell your name how it's actually spelled. This is especially true for businesses.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 14:12:
Exclusivity for PC games is the astroturf of building brand loyalty. At the end of the day, most won't stay on Epic's store to buy games beyond using it to play Metro Exodus, if they reluctantly bought it there.

Yes, this is obvious and literally every single person on the planet knows this. However, if you can tell me how Epic can get a few hundred thousand people to purchase on the platform at the end of this week, I'm sure I can pass it along to Mark Rein and get you a job there. Anywhere, really.

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:21:

Fion wrote on Feb 10, 2019, 13:03:
CD Project Red

* CD Projekt, dude. Literally first sentence of the newsbit and you still spell it wrong. Now go wash your sticky fingers and lurn 2 sp3LL!

Projekt is the European (German, Polish, etc) spelling of the word "Project." It's fine to spell it either way since they both mean the same thing.

Exclusivity for PC games is the astroturf of building brand loyalty. At the end of the day, most won't stay on Epic's store to buy games beyond using it to play Metro Exodus, if they reluctantly bought it there.

RedEye9 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:06:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
Idiots - Metro Exodus was never exclusive to Steam. You could buy it anywhere. As many publishers do, the makers of the game had decided of their own volition to use Steam as their DRM. This isn't fucking hard. It's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Oh, so I could download and install it from Itch.io, GOG, UBISoft, Steam, Humble and the Epic Store. I didn't know that. No wonder the outrage.

Sarcasm doesn't work when you aren't clever enough to use it while making your point obvious. In that light, what is your point here exactly?

Suppa7 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 10:22:

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
t's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Except it's not stupid, since more and more games are made "services" in that the drm is built in and you never get a copy. AKA what happened to team fortress 2. Or what happened to Awesomenauts to sell skins.

Yes you are right - with the rise of the digital platform the DRM is more and more intrinsically designed into them. Still Valve never had to do anything beyond make a superior feature set to entice developers to willingly make the choice to use it.

Prez wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 09:58:
t's like being mad that a game in the 90's used securom instead of starforce. LOL remember those?

Except it's not stupid, since more and more games are made "services" in that the drm is built in and you never get a copy. AKA what happened to team fortress 2. Or what happened to Awesomenauts to sell skins.