Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 11, 2019, 15:43:
Ok, so I pretty much played this game all weekend long. It's very addicting and fun. The only problems I have with it are: PEOPLE. Just like every multiplayer game.

The people who go off in 2 seperate directions so you try to pick one to follow only it is obvious they do not want to play as a squad.

The people who die/quit immediately after jumping so you essentially play solo. (Although I have hit 3rd and 2nd place a few times as a solo.)

The people who grab EVERYTHING and then curse you out because you die, even though they left you nothing to fight with.

The people who knowingly walk into a fire fight with 5 other squads and curse you out because you couldn't rez them even though you were a bit busy fighting for your life.


When you get a decent squad, or even a not terrible squad this game is brilliant. Much harder to enjoy with horrible players or assholes.

Most of what you mentioned is a result of bad squad mates, and I commiserate with you. But I'm getting the feeling that you might hug too close to your squad mates during looting. Make sure you're slightly splitting off on the initial drop once you reach the general area. Hit up different but nearby buildings than your squad mates. If after all of that you're still lacking some things use the spot tool in your inventory to identify them or if not possible then ask for specific stuff like, "I still need an assault rifle" but otherwise just middle click the scope slot if all you need is that etc.

Following too closely doesn't help the team. You're getting scraps for loot, you're only seeing the same angles as the guy you're following... It's definitely a delicate balance, spreading out just enough to not be stepping on toes but also not too far that the team is in trouble when action hits.

Ok, so I pretty much played this game all weekend long. It's very addicting and fun. The only problems I have with it are: PEOPLE. Just like every multiplayer game.

The people who go off in 2 seperate directions so you try to pick one to follow only it is obvious they do not want to play as a squad.

The people who die/quit immediately after jumping so you essentially play solo. (Although I have hit 3rd and 2nd place a few times as a solo.)

The people who grab EVERYTHING and then curse you out because you die, even though they left you nothing to fight with.

The people who knowingly walk into a fire fight with 5 other squads and curse you out because you couldn't rez them even though you were a bit busy fighting for your life.


When you get a decent squad, or even a not terrible squad this game is brilliant. Much harder to enjoy with horrible players or assholes.

jdreyer wrote on Feb 8, 2019, 16:18:

Creston wrote on Feb 6, 2019, 20:25:

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

You must not remember all the outrage against Origin when it was first released. It's been around for awhile now, by and large people have learned to live with it as one of those "It fucks you, but what can you do?" things in life.

There was outrage against Steam when it first launched. 'Tis the way it is with digital storefronts. gamers and anything that isn't exactly what they already know.

FTFY

Creston wrote on Feb 6, 2019, 20:25:

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

You must not remember all the outrage against Origin when it was first released. It's been around for awhile now, by and large people have learned to live with it as one of those "It fucks you, but what can you do?" things in life.

There was outrage against Steam when it first launched. 'Tis the way it is with digital storefronts.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 20:10:

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

It's not an apple to apple comparison. Several key differences:

1. Apex is free to play with MTX. Metro Exodus is a $50 title.
2. Apex launched on EA's proprietary platform. Exodus had a long pre-sale period on Steam then went exclusive Epic two-weeks before launch.
3. Apex launched under the radar of other hyped products (e.g. Anthem, Metro Exodus). Controversy is the primary driver surrounding Exodus's hype. Meanwhile, there was no controversy with Apex Legends. It just released like an after-thought.
4. Origin is a stable platform that is backed by big publisher EA.
5. People are used to EA products having exclusivity on their platform. That's not the same as Deep Silver going exclusive to Epic. First and foremost, Deep Silver didn't develop the Epic launcher/store. They had a choice to put their game on as many platforms for the broadest coverage and best ROI. Instead, they chose a compromised platform with a fraction of Steam's customer base based on whatever money Epic gave them.

Bottom line, Origin is a better platform than Epic's platform. I have yet to hear of security breaches happening on EA's platform.

I would buy Metro Exodus on Origin before I would ever buy it from the Epic store, and that comes from someone who tolerates Origin's existence.

Nice analysis, KX.

Creston wrote on Feb 6, 2019, 20:25:

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

You must not remember all the outrage against Origin when it was first released. It's been around for awhile now, by and large people have learned to live with it as one of those "It fucks you, but what can you do?" things in life.

Oh yeah, we all know how that video game storefront fucks us. ALL NIGHT BABY.

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

You must not remember all the outrage against Origin when it was first released. It's been around for awhile now, by and large people have learned to live with it as one of those "It fucks you, but what can you do?" things in life.

Sepharo wrote on Feb 6, 2019, 15:16:
I guess I'm lying when I say the advanced but intuitive spotting system makes playing with randos pretty simple and enjoyable.

edit: lol, just saw an ad for this game on facebook, was curious to see what the top comment was...
https://i.imgur.com/L1y2VZu.png

Yeah, they knocked it out of the park when it comes to intuitive communication. Recorded voice lines for seemingly EVERYTHING in the game too, and by each character... Every weapon, mod, rarity, contextual callout, it's just a lot of work.

And did you all know that under accessibility options you can:

A) Have all team text chat converted to audio

or

B) Have all team voip converted to text chat?

Very impressive.

I guess I'm lying when I say the advanced but intuitive spotting system makes playing with randos pretty simple and enjoyable.

edit: lol, just saw an ad for this game on facebook, was curious to see what the top comment was...
https://i.imgur.com/L1y2VZu.png

This comment was edited on Feb 6, 2019, 17:28.

VaranDragon wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 15:28:
Yeah I don't know, but I keep getting placed with random players who play like bots, don't res, run straight into enemy players and don't talk.

Im trying to stay positive here but what the actual fuck? How come you guys are having a better experience than I am?

Anyone telling you that going rando surfing for a PvP game where it's team vs team is pleasant is pretty much always lying to you.

This kind of stuff is exactly why I have ZERO interest in forced team MP games unless they actually have a primary cooperative element that goes beyond loot loot loot. Ie. BF4 where even a random squad can easily find together if everyone knows how to look at the map. And even THAT is not guaranteed. There are still people in BF4 who don't have chat unhidden.

christheshitter wrote on Feb 6, 2019, 06:25:
Another kid game and shocked to see many in this thread playing it. What are you twelve?

There's a lot of other games out there which makes you use your brain in a positive way.

You're a lovely person, assuredly with lots of people who enjoy being around you.

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Lucidity wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 13:37:
Average match time: 10-15 min., there is wall running(Vertically). Apex is very fast paced, if you know how to utilize your skills and the map features. This game has hit the ground running and didn't miss a beat, full featured, no Early Access BS, Smooth as Silk.

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 15:21:
I had a great bit of fun trying this out last night. Smooth as silk, no server issues.. it was a proper way to launch a game. The weapons feel punchy and satisfying, and I like the fast paced action quite a bit. Played with randoms trying to learn the game and weapons and whether they talked or not (about 50/50), I still felt I was learning and doing better in matches at my own pace. Not a single dickhead tryhard berating me or other people not doing good in our squads, and if that did happen you can just mute anyways, so no issues for me there. I really think Respawn hit a home run with this one, and if they can find a way to add a 'Titan' game mode in the future I would be all for trying that.. but the game is quite good as it is now.

Exactly... Respawn has some real classy designers and project management, it shows big time. Everything has been an improvement over previous BR games. Especially seemingly little things like the gun upgrades automatically swapping and/or applying when applicable. But there's a ton of other new stuff spread around ideas cribbed from the most successful in genre and other FPS.

Jivaro wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 21:56:

peteham wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:28:

Jivaro wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:07:
Two classes hidden behind a paywall? There isn't a way to earn them by playing?

12.000 Legend Tokens or 750 Apex Coins ($7.50). Legend Tokens are earned through match XP. Can't really speak to the earn-rate; it's obviously going to be faster if you're good at the game and it could amount to a ludicrous grind for a normal player, for all I know. But it's certainly possible.

Thx for the explanation!

Oh my mistake. Not even sure what the currency means in the game.

By the way how do you turn on autopickup? Im pretty sure thats a thing in the game, but for the life of me I can't figure out where to find the option. Maybe Im just tripping.

peteham wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:28:

Jivaro wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:07:
Two classes hidden behind a paywall? There isn't a way to earn them by playing?

12.000 Legend Tokens or 750 Apex Coins ($7.50). Legend Tokens are earned through match XP. Can't really speak to the earn-rate; it's obviously going to be faster if you're good at the game and it could amount to a ludicrous grind for a normal player, for all I know. But it's certainly possible.

Thx for the explanation!

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

Pretty much.
Gamers are known for cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Squirmer wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:19:
So this game requires Origin and you can't play it with Steam, and yet there's no mass outrage from angry gamers with boycott threats and review bombing of Respawn's other games? Curious hey.

It's not an apple to apple comparison. Several key differences:

1. Apex is free to play with MTX. Metro Exodus is a $50 title.
2. Apex launched on EA's proprietary platform. Exodus had a long pre-sale period on Steam then went exclusive Epic two-weeks before launch.
3. Apex launched under the radar of other hyped products (e.g. Anthem, Metro Exodus). Controversy is the primary driver surrounding Exodus's hype. Meanwhile, there was no controversy with Apex Legends. It just released like an after-thought.
4. Origin is a stable platform that is backed by big publisher EA.
5. People are used to EA products having exclusivity on their platform. That's not the same as Deep Silver going exclusive to Epic. First and foremost, Deep Silver didn't develop the Epic launcher/store. They had a choice to put their game on as many platforms for the broadest coverage and best ROI. Instead, they chose a compromised platform with a fraction of Steam's customer base based on whatever money Epic gave them.

Bottom line, Origin is a better platform than Epic's platform. I have yet to hear of security breaches happening on EA's platform.

I would buy Metro Exodus on Origin before I would ever buy it from the Epic store, and that comes from someone who tolerates Origin's existence.

Let's see how much money this actually makes. This could still be how EA kills Respawn.

peteham wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:28:

Jivaro wrote on Feb 5, 2019, 17:07:
Two classes hidden behind a paywall? There isn't a way to earn them by playing?

12.000 Legend Tokens or 750 Apex Coins ($7.50). Legend Tokens are earned through match XP. Can't really speak to the earn-rate; it's obviously going to be faster if you're good at the game and it could amount to a ludicrous grind for a normal player, for all I know. But it's certainly possible.

I unlocked about 3k in 3 hours, could likely unlock one in a week.

Fortnite with a Total Conversion mod.