RedEye9 wrote on Jan 22, 2019, 20:12:
The trolling I was referring to is asinine statements like "Well... why don't you give away "6 or so's of families of 4's" of your salary."
That wasn't intended as trolling.
I don't understand the concept of "if someone has it, it's ok to just take it"... I equate that to stealing. If I suddenly got rich... doesn't matter how... instant business success, lotto, inheritance, whatever, that doesn't give society the right to just grab 70%-90% of it. To me, THAT is asinine.
That said, Mr. Beamer is in favor of Eiesenhower tax brackets.... which means everyone pays a lot more, not just the rich. So, I equate that to he thinks it is ok to give a majority of his earnings to the governent. More power to him. Please leave me out of that.
Beamer wrote on Jan 22, 2019, 20:36:
1) And, weirdly, she's not proposing raising taxes on you.
Unfortunately that's bullshit and we all know it. When the left raises taxes... it's on EVERYONE. The Rich find a few more "tax shelters" and still don't pay their bracket...and the Middle class gets screwed... AGAIN. We can't afford to make a ton of investments that shelter us from taxes, like the rich can (which makes them more money in the long run).
I'm not debating that the rich aren't paying their fair share. I'm debating that the deck is stacked aginst the Middle Class, and just raising taxes is not the answer, because it always affects MORE than the rich.
How about we get rid of deductions for the two highest brackets?
No need to charge them 70% when they end up still only paying 15%. 37% with no deductions actually sounds reasonble, and doesn't appear like the government is trying to rape folks "that have it".
Just want to say this has been an intersting debate and I am glad it has remained relatively civil.
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