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I avoided talking about this weekend's football action to account for at least one regular reader who has to catch up to many sports event via DVR. Hopefully everyone is all caught up, otherwise, well, *spoiler alert*. So, the games were as thrilling as advertised, weren't they? There was a little more defense all around than anyone was anticipating, but each game going into overtime is a dream scenario for the NFL. Of course that doesn't help quell conspiracy theories after the Patriots caught a lot of breaks from the refs in the nightcap after one of the worst blown calls in playoff history stole the first game from the Saints. Amazingly, it seems there's an NFL rule that arguably would allow the commissioner to reverse the outcome of the Saints game, but, as the article notes, he won't. After all, would Roger Goodell ever abuse his power? It's a shame, really, as why should such a rule exist if no one has the stones to use it? And where would it be more applicable? A first down would have allowed the Saints to drain the clock before their field goal, and they already had kicked one, so it seems easy to justify awarding them the victory, or at very least make the teams replay things from that point on. It seems especially awful that the call ended what may be the last rodeo for Drew Brees, who is now 40 (80 in quarterback years). In missing two blatant penalties on the same play at the key juncture, the refs adding to a history of officiating ineptitude that is an ugly blot on the NFL's record.

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11. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 23, 2019, 06:44 Nimh
 
The thing is.. it was good season with regard to officiating. Certainly better than last year. But AFC/NFC playoffs? WTF was that? The refs "played" more than both teams in the 4th quarter of the NE/KC game. And the obviously blown Saints game.

Well, all things considered there was some serious talent introduced this year, so that was good to see. Looking forward to next season. (Not going to sit through 2 weeks of Tom Brady GOAT articles/memes after officiating sends them to the SB again)
 
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 21:44 1badmf
 
Kain wrote on Jan 22, 2019, 12:53:
The trouble with the NFL is that so many plays are subjective and its a very technical sport. It's hard to deploy tech to make decisions on things that aren't "did ball pass this line?".

That said I am still mind boggled that 2 different officials saw that and insist it wasn't pass interference. I have yet to hear a rational justification for the decision. For Saints fans it must be especially galling after a similar incident vs Minnesota last year.

I thought there were a few questionable calls on both sides of things in the Patriots/Chiefs game and thought it was a fair victory for the Pats. Regardless of the outcome from the Super Bowl, Tom Brady should just retire on this high note in his career. His hubris will probably lead him into gradual obsolescence and a tarnished image of his career like Favre but oh well.

according to the saints' coach the refs said it was a bang bang play, which logically still makes no sense because that only applies when the ball and the defender arrive at about the same time. the ball never arrived. last i checked you can't hit a downfield receiver who never had the ball which was obviously the case here. it wasn't just a blown call, it logically made no sense in any rational interpretation of the rules.
 
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 20:19 jdreyer
 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 20:08 jdreyer
 
theglaze wrote on Jan 22, 2019, 11:28:
Why even referee the game from the field anymore? 4K cameras all over the place, fans in the stadium and at home can clearly see what actually happened, from multiple angles, zoom, and in slow-mo… all available almost instantly.

Take at least half of these middle-aged zebras off the field, put a bunch of millennials in a review center with all the tech at their finger-tips, add 5-10 more seconds to the game clock to makeup for the potential delay in relaying instructions to the head-ref… and boom that game is more “accurate”.

The current officiating system is full of inefficiencies and miscommunication, but clearly the expectations are evolving faster than the ol'regime can change. But don’t subject refs to the same field conditions, underpay them by 10x what the players make, and expect them to get the call right every time.

Actually a great idea.
 
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7. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 19:45 Luke
 
How in the biip can they say OK to this gene-edit baby thing , humans never learn...  
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6. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 12:55 Beamer
 
Kain wrote on Jan 22, 2019, 12:53:
The trouble with the NFL is that so many plays are subjective and its a very technical sport compared to say soccer where they have deployed tech to confirm goals and remove all doubt.

Yeah, the rules are weird to archaic, which can be hard to automate. Even more, it isn't as easy as in soccer, where what matters is the ball entering the goal. The ball crossing the line in football doesn't always tell you if it's a touchdown. Was the player down first? Did he have control of it? It isn't easy to automate that, and that's typically the discussion, not whether it simply crossed.

I generally consider the way the rulings are made to be an interesting part of the game. But this was a big blown call.
 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 12:53 Kain
 
The trouble with the NFL is that so many plays are subjective and its a very technical sport. It's hard to deploy tech to make decisions on things that aren't "did ball pass this line?".

That said I am still mind boggled that 2 different officials saw that and insist it wasn't pass interference. I have yet to hear a rational justification for the decision. For Saints fans it must be especially galling after a similar incident vs Minnesota last year.

I thought there were a few questionable calls on both sides of things in the Patriots/Chiefs game and thought it was a fair victory for the Pats. Regardless of the outcome from the Super Bowl, Tom Brady should just retire on this high note in his career. His hubris will probably lead him into gradual obsolescence and a tarnished image of his career like Favre but oh well.
 
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4. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 12:27 MoreLuckThanSkill
 
My hopes for Brightburn are probably way out of whack; ideally it turns out to be a straight up awesome horror story with super hero(es) but no doubt it'll get watered down and ruined utterly.

Edge case non-'traditional' superhuman movies can have a lot more leeway in theory, hopefully Brightburn succeeds and leads to some really good graphic novels/comics that aren't pure spandex getting made into faithful film versions. I'm looking at you, Wanted, the worst translation of a comic ever.
 
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 11:28 theglaze
 
Why even referee the game from the field anymore? 4K cameras all over the place, fans in the stadium and at home can clearly see what actually happened, from multiple angles, zoom, and in slow-mo… all available almost instantly.

Take at least half of these middle-aged zebras off the field, put a bunch of millennials in a review center with all the tech at their finger-tips, add 5-10 more seconds to the game clock to makeup for the potential delay in relaying instructions to the head-ref… and boom that game is more “accurate”.

The current officiating system is full of inefficiencies and miscommunication, but clearly the expectations are evolving faster than the ol'regime can change. But don’t subject refs to the same field conditions, underpay them by 10x what the players make, and expect them to get the call right every time.
 
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2. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 RedEye9
 

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1. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 22, 2019, 10:50 Cutter
 
I thought the first halves of those games wren't very good because the Rams and Chiefs were both dominated. The second halves is where it got good. And yeah it was a blown call but welcome to football. You sure as hell don't see those coaches complaining when a bad call works in their favor. If they're going to stop and review every single call the games would last days. Besides there's no guarentee that a team would win anyway. The kick could get blocked - happens all the time. A block, fumble recovery and TD by the Rams could have happened too. And if they had time for one last play they could win it on a hail Mary. That's why it won't and shouldn't be overturned. Call one and you have to start doing it for every single game and every blown call and that's just silly.

 
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