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Happy birthday to Ant, one of this site's dear long-time friends and contributors. Ant has submitted more links over the years than a Zelda convention, and has had a strong positive influence on the coverage here. Hats off to you Ant, have a great birthday. Here's hoping there are no ants in the cake!

Birthday Links: Thanks Ant.
Stories: Coca-Cola influences China’s obesity policy, BMJ report says.
Science: Exactly How Far You Need to Stand from Someone Sick to Avoid Getting the Flu.
American Psychological Association links 'masculinity ideology' to homophobia, misogyny. Thanks Max.
Media: Trevor Moore - "My Computer Just Became Self Aware." NSFW.
Beatboxing Cat. Now we need a collaboration with Keyboard Cat.
Hilarious footage shows two teenagers completely baffled by a rotary telephone when given four minutes to make one call. Thanks ViperFour.
Follow-up: Ocean Warming Is Accelerating Faster Than Thought, New Research Finds.
Police investigate theft from Aretha Franklin's estate.
The Funnies: Savage Chickens.

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30. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 17:38 CthulhuFan
 
I think your understanding of the term "snowflake" really needs to be re-evaluated.  
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29. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 17:13 Beamer
 
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 15:56:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 13:46:
Now, not every male has this idea of masculinity, but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual.
Now I grew up down an old dirt road, in a town you wouldn't know. ...

It's always entertaining listening to the big city cunts telling us how to live out here in fly-over country.

1) I have no clue who you are

2) I did not mention you, quote you, or reply to you

3) I did not say all country folk are like this

4) I did not imply all truck owners are like this

I think your response is the very definition of "snowflake." You tried very hard to be offended by what I said.
 
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28. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 16:33 CthulhuFan
 
Meh, I have no place for bigots; they can piss off.

Homophobic? Naw, you got me wrong. I am Non-Aggression Principle; quite literally I don't give two fucks what you do as long as it harms no-one else.
 
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27. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 16:16 Kxmode
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 12:54:
Oh really? A lot of cultures down through the ages were big on machismo and homosexuality just fine. Try again. Monotheism is mostly the problem as virtually all those cultures were polytheistic. Pagans were hedonists and liked getting down. No one started getting uptight about this stuff until Christianity showed up and then it got much worse with Islam. Buddhism not so much, but that's a horse of a different color.

Yes, you're correct. Many ancient pagan religions typically fell into two main categories — death or sex cults. The Bible cites many of their practices as a warning to Jews to avoid their worship as an affront to God (Yahweh in Hebrew or Jehovah in English).

The situation was dangerous enough that GOD/Yahweh/Jehovah told them through Moses at Deuteronomy* 18:10-12.

"There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer, anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you."

(Deuteronomy 18:9-11) When you come into the country your God Jehovah is giving you, you shall not learn to do like the detestable doings of those nations.

(Exodus 23:23,24) my Angel will go before you and bring you into the Amorites, and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivvites and the Jebusites, and I will annihilate them. You shall not do reverence to their gods nor worship them, nor do like their doings, for you are to demolish their altars and break their obelisks to pieces

A few ancient pagan religions were death and sex cult hybrids. A person would volunteer or unsuspectingly participate in a ritual where they would engage in sex in front of a pagan God alter with men and (or) women (gender in these religions was mostly irrelevant). At the height of the climax, the pagan's priest would drive a dagger in the target's torso, usually at or near the heart and extract the heart. The sex act and the heart were then presented to the idol to complete the ritual.

As noted by Paul, Jesus death as the Messiah was the "end of the [Mosaic] Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness." (Romans 10:4) However, Christianity continued much of what began in Judaism in the form of principles. The issues with paganism were always seen as an "uptight thing" with the Jews long before Christianity, and naturally that "uptightness" would carry over into Christianity. At least, true Christianity before it became apostate by the 2nd century, and finally -- ironically -- pagan itself by Constantine's rule.

*Deuteronomy means "second law."
 
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26. removed Jan 11, 2019, 16:15 RedEye9
 
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“Yeah, I’d like to order one large phone with extra phones, please.” “Cell phone. No-no-no-no, rotary! And pay phone on half.”
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25. removed Jan 11, 2019, 15:56 CthulhuFan
 
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24. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:52 jdreyer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 10:34:
I wonder if the Accelerated Ocean Warming keeps us on the "Current Path".
https://xkcd.com/1732/

Oh, you. You with your"science" and your "facts." Those "scientists" are just making up data so the can score billion dollar grants from the gubmint. Rush told me so
 
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23. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:49 jdreyer
 
Ant wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 10:51:
Thanks all.

Happy birthday man! Eat some cake! Cake
 
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22. Re: Rotary phone Jan 11, 2019, 15:45 jdreyer
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 09:35:

I'm pretty certain that you could put a 1940s adding machine in front of many of us and we'd not be able to get it right until quite a bit of trial and error. That's what this phone basically is for them, how outdated it is.
Or an abacus?
 
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:18 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 15:07:
CK will claim he doesn't care about being likable, but why else would anyone book his continually-cratering career at their club?

Louis sexually harassed people... which has nothing to do with comedy.

And he's been making a comeback, repeatedly doing clubs, and now mocking Parkland survivors.

Which is what I'm referencing. As for Kevin Hart, I'd also argue his tweets have nothing to do with comedy.
 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:11 El Pit
 
Happy birthday, Ant. Long live the hive!  
They're waiting for you, Gabe, in the test chamber!
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19. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:07 PHJF
 
CK will claim he doesn't care about being likable, but why else would anyone book his continually-cratering career at their club?

Louis sexually harassed people... which has nothing to do with comedy.
 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 15:03 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 14:43:
He SHOULDN'T apologize. He's a comedian. The best-regarded comedy has often been offensive.

Did you read his posts? They weren't attempts to be funny. They weren't jokes. And, frankly, being a comedian isn't a get out of jail free card. You're still going to be judged for what you say, and your income is still determined by your likability. If he wants to still make money on being likable, he should do what it takes to remain likable.

Would you defend the stupid shit Louis CK said, too, because it was comedy? Should no one be annoyed about it? CK will claim he doesn't care about being likable, but why else would anyone book his continually-cratering career at their club?
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 14:43 PHJF
 
He SHOULDN'T apologize. He's a comedian. The best-regarded comedy has often been offensive.  
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 14:23 Mr. Tact
 
Happy B-day, Ant.

I actually thought the teens did okay. They probably never heard a dial tone before. They talked it out. It was still amusing to watch though...
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 14:17 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 13:57:
Well it's easy to take it too far in the other direction. Terry Gross was basically hammering Kevin Hart on NPR yesterday over a decade-old homophobic tweet and I just kept thinking... yeah, he's a fucking comedian, not the president of the United States. Get over it.

I think the issue with Kevin Hart is he hasn't apologized. He's said he has, but no one has found it, and he's said he's tired of talking about it. As opposed to, say, James Gunn, who did apologize, and apologized often. Kevin Hart is making this much worse. As you said, he's a comedian, and while the stuff he said is idiotic, he's saying he's grown and is no longer an idiot. He could have ended this on day 1, but instead he's making it about an attack on him. I feel much worse for the MLB pitchers that were once idiot 14 year olds saying the same thing 99% of idiot 14 year olds say without realizing it's offensive to anyone at all. For every one of those there's an idiot MLB pitcher clearly trying to be offensive than angry when caught, but man, a few were clearly just dumb kids totally unaware of the larger context of their words.

Though, the best apology I've seen in my life was Chance the Rapper earlier this week, apologizing for working with R Kelly, and idiots still found a way to take one line from that out of context.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 14:13 Jivaro
 
Happy Birthday Ant!  
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 13:57 PHJF
 
Well it's easy to take it too far in the other direction. Terry Gross was basically hammering Kevin Hart on NPR yesterday over a decade-old homophobic tweet and I just kept thinking... yeah, he's a fucking comedian, not the president of the United States. Get over it.  
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 13:46 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 12:54:
Oh really? A lot of cultures down through the ages were big on machismo and homosexuality just fine. Try again. Monotheism is mostly the problem as virtually all those cultures were polytheistic. Pagans were hedonists and liked getting down. No one started getting uptight about this stuff until Christianity showed up and then it got much worse with Islam. Buddhism not so much, but that's a horse of a different color.

This is the first guy I'd expect to complain about toxic masculinity. Also the guy so desperate to demonstrate his masculinity here that he's repeatedly called for others to commit suicide.

Toxic masculinity is absolutely a thing. I'd expect this board, more than others, to agree with that, as I'd wager there's a higher percentage of men here bullied in HS for not being "masculine enough" because they preferred computers to football than elsewhere, but for some reason, this is another concept people shut down about and refuse to understand.

What the article singles out is:

The new “Guidelines for the Psychological Practice with Boys and Men” defines “masculinity ideology” as “a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.” The report also links this ideology to homophobia, bullying and sexual harassment.

Now, not every male has this idea of masculinity, but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual. Our culture is loaded with this. And it forces men to do things that aren't good for their psyche. Pretending this isn't true isn't helpful.

Also, it's always weird to me to see some people (not saying anyone here) complain about the exact stuff behind this in one topic, then as soon as the word "masculinity" comes up, reverses and pretends everything is honky dory.
 
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 12:54 Cutter
 
Oh really? A lot of cultures down through the ages were big on machismo and homosexuality just fine. Try again. Monotheism is mostly the problem as virtually all those cultures were polytheistic. Pagans were hedonists and liked getting down. No one started getting uptight about this stuff until Christianity showed up and then it got much worse with Islam. Buddhism not so much, but that's a horse of a different color.
 
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