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Happy birthday to Ant, one of this site's dear long-time friends and contributors. Ant has submitted more links over the years than a Zelda convention, and has had a strong positive influence on the coverage here. Hats off to you Ant, have a great birthday. Here's hoping there are no ants in the cake!

Birthday Links: Thanks Ant.
Stories: Coca-Cola influences China’s obesity policy, BMJ report says.
Science: Exactly How Far You Need to Stand from Someone Sick to Avoid Getting the Flu.
American Psychological Association links 'masculinity ideology' to homophobia, misogyny. Thanks Max.
Media: Trevor Moore - "My Computer Just Became Self Aware." NSFW.
Beatboxing Cat. Now we need a collaboration with Keyboard Cat.
Hilarious footage shows two teenagers completely baffled by a rotary telephone when given four minutes to make one call. Thanks ViperFour.
Follow-up: Ocean Warming Is Accelerating Faster Than Thought, New Research Finds.
Police investigate theft from Aretha Franklin's estate.
The Funnies: Savage Chickens.

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50. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 17, 2019, 12:06 RedEye9
 
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 16, 2019, 22:52:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 17:13:
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 15:56:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 13:46:
Now, not every male has this idea of masculinity, but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual.
Now I grew up down an old dirt road, in a town you wouldn't know. ...

It's always entertaining listening to Americans telling us how to live out here in fly-over country.

1) I have no clue who you are

2) I did not mention you, quote you, or reply to you

3) I did not say all country folk are like this

4) I did not imply all truck owners are like this

I think your response is the very definition of "snowflake." You tried very hard to be offended by what I said.

but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual...

What is this, the 1950's?

You can't be serious...
Nope, it's 2019 and he is serious.
Everything Beamer and BoP posted is true. If you repeatedy find yourself being offended by 5 day old posts in this thread you may want to quit scouring it.
 
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49. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 16, 2019, 22:52 CthulhuFan
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 17:13:
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 15:56:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 13:46:
Now, not every male has this idea of masculinity, but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual.
Now I grew up down an old dirt road, in a town you wouldn't know. ...

It's always entertaining listening to the big city cunts telling us how to live out here in fly-over country.

1) I have no clue who you are

2) I did not mention you, quote you, or reply to you

3) I did not say all country folk are like this

4) I did not imply all truck owners are like this

I think your response is the very definition of "snowflake." You tried very hard to be offended by what I said.

but c'mon, we've all seen the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin' and thinks that having a guy friend you care about makes you some kind of homosexual...

What is this, the 1950's?

You can't be serious...
 
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48. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 16, 2019, 22:28 CthulhuFan
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 18:23:
As someone who genuinely does like in the sticks of Central Texas, the rednecks deserve all the mocking and ridicule that one could possibly heap upon them. As a data set of a larger demographic, they are generally the loudest, most ignorant, least educated, and most insecure people one can find.

In point of fact, Mrs. Burrito and I went out to breakfast this morning and there was this older redneck going on and on about "the gays" and "what being a real man is". It was some of the most poisonous, toxic, holdover bullshit from the 50s one might imagine. It was nearly a caricature of itself and the person speaking it.

So it very much does exist and it is, like those who would espouse it, fucking ignorant.

Rednecks exist in any demographic. We all have to deal with them and you don't get to use them as a free 'excuse' to judge whole groups of people.
 
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47. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jan 16, 2019, 13:52 jdreyer
 
Rectal Prolapse wrote on Jan 14, 2019, 14:21:
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

A review. This is written by Chris Ferguson, who we know as doing great research on the false link between videogames and violence.


This psychologist does not agree with the guidelines. These guidelines are very controversial in the field, and many other psychologists consider them harmful or at least unhelpful when actually helping men with mental problems.
The guidelines have sparked significant controversy. They accurately identify some of the health and suicide risks for men and the fact that men are less interested in engaging with therapy. However, the guidelines have been criticized by many for relying on a great number of vague, subjective ideological and political/sociological concepts, rather than psychological science. For instance, the paper uncritically references the concept of micro-aggressions, without acknowledging the severe limitations of the concept recently pointed out by Scott Lilienfeld.

And:
In response to the reaction to the guidelines, the APA issued a clarification of a sort, indicating that their real concern was only around some "extreme stereotypical behaviors" held by a few men. Unfortunately, though, neither the guidelines nor the correction offer much assistance on picking out these few unhealthy men from healthy men who are more traditionally masculine. They suggest that their concern is "When a man believes that he must be successful no matter who is harmed." The authors offer no assistance in distinguishing this particular concern from other, more clearly psychological issues, such as Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is more prevalent in males and would overlap substantially. For clinical guidelines to fail to address such an important issue of differential diagnosis is quite concerning to many in the field.

These particular guidelines set a poor precedent, suggesting that psychologists can be quite casual with facts and ignore discrepant research when ideological values are deemed more important. That's not how I was trained in psychology, or as a man.
More opinions and reactions (good and bad) follow:


https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1083034985072754688
Geoffrey Miller: "They fail to distinguish masculinity from psychopathy, for example. Psychopathic behavior by males is framed as mostly an outcome of patriarchal conditioning & masculine stereotypes, rather than a mental disorder in its own right. Equates being a 'real man' with being evil."

APA's contested piece on Harmful masculinity and violence


The APA Can’t Spin Its Way Out of Its Attack on ‘Traditional Masculinity’

The Unending War Against Masculinity and Men


It's a very good thing to continue to study all of this stuff, and see where the research leads. Personally what I'm opposed to is knee jerk stuff by the press and politicians that has no basis in fact. We live in the least violent era in human history, despite millions and millions of people playing FPS shooters for the last 20 years.

Also this:

80 percent of mass shooters showed no interest in video games, researcher says
 
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46. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jan 14, 2019, 14:21 Rectal Prolapse
 
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

A review. This is written by Chris Ferguson, who we know as doing great research on the false link between videogames and violence.


This psychologist does not agree with the guidelines. These guidelines are very controversial in the field, and many other psychologists consider them harmful or at least unhelpful when actually helping men with mental problems.
The guidelines have sparked significant controversy. They accurately identify some of the health and suicide risks for men and the fact that men are less interested in engaging with therapy. However, the guidelines have been criticized by many for relying on a great number of vague, subjective ideological and political/sociological concepts, rather than psychological science. For instance, the paper uncritically references the concept of micro-aggressions, without acknowledging the severe limitations of the concept recently pointed out by Scott Lilienfeld.

And:
In response to the reaction to the guidelines, the APA issued a clarification of a sort, indicating that their real concern was only around some "extreme stereotypical behaviors" held by a few men. Unfortunately, though, neither the guidelines nor the correction offer much assistance on picking out these few unhealthy men from healthy men who are more traditionally masculine. They suggest that their concern is "When a man believes that he must be successful no matter who is harmed." The authors offer no assistance in distinguishing this particular concern from other, more clearly psychological issues, such as Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is more prevalent in males and would overlap substantially. For clinical guidelines to fail to address such an important issue of differential diagnosis is quite concerning to many in the field.

These particular guidelines set a poor precedent, suggesting that psychologists can be quite casual with facts and ignore discrepant research when ideological values are deemed more important. That's not how I was trained in psychology, or as a man.
More opinions and reactions (good and bad) follow:


https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1083034985072754688
Geoffrey Miller: "They fail to distinguish masculinity from psychopathy, for example. Psychopathic behavior by males is framed as mostly an outcome of patriarchal conditioning & masculine stereotypes, rather than a mental disorder in its own right. Equates being a 'real man' with being evil."

APA's contested piece on Harmful masculinity and violence


The APA Can’t Spin Its Way Out of Its Attack on ‘Traditional Masculinity’

The Unending War Against Masculinity and Men

 
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45. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 13, 2019, 15:55 Ant
 
Kxmode wrote on Jan 13, 2019, 14:03:
Ant wrote on Jan 13, 2019, 01:31:
Although, ... happy ... would be nice.

Have you heard the expression, "Happy as a bug in a rug?" We could get you a rug!
I already have a rug, but thanks.
 
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44. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 13, 2019, 14:03 Kxmode
 
Ant wrote on Jan 13, 2019, 01:31:
Although, ... happy ... would be nice.

Have you heard the expression, "Happy as a bug in a rug?" We could get you a rug!
 
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William Shakespeare's "Star Wars" Act I, Scene 1: Aboard the rebel ship. / Enter C-3PO and R2-D2. / C-3PO: "Now is the summer of our happiness / Made winter by this sudden, fierce attack!" / R2-D2 — Beep beep, Beep, beep, meep, squeak, beep, whee!
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43. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 13, 2019, 01:31 Ant
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 20:13:
Acleacius wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 18:50:
OMG, what do you get the Ant who has everything! Cake Cheers

Ant is often remarking on the old state of his computer.

Ant, if you start a GoFundMe for a new PC, I'll toss in $20.

Just think of how much more quickly you could fish links with a new PC.
Hahah. Thanks guys. I am fine with my ancient stuff like my iPhone 4S, decade old desktop PCs, etc. I'm old too. Although, a remote paying IT job, being healthy (have more health issues) and motivated, happy, peace, smart, etc. would be nice.
 
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42. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 13, 2019, 01:29 Ant
 
El Pit wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 15:11:
Happy birthday, Ant. Long live the hive!
But ants don't have hives. Wasps and bees do!
 
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41. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 12, 2019, 23:02 Mr. Tact
 
Sounds oddly familiar, like it should remind me of someone else...  
Truth is brutal. Prepare for pain.
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40. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 12, 2019, 22:57 Beamer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 23:54:
Ah, the irony...

Wish I kept a list of all the factually incorrect stuff he said and, despite Google proving him wrong, he never reversed on.

Just a miserable and confused person.
 
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39. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 23:54 RedEye9
 

Ah, the irony...
 
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38. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 23:34 Cutter
 
Will you assholes stop feeding that little basement-dwelling troll already? Blue, why do you keep letting that 15 year old jerkoff keep posting and constantly trolling this site. That's all the little loser does. Just because his mom lets him get away with it doesn't mean you have to.

 
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37. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 21:52 Beamer
 
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 17:38:
I think your understanding of the term "snowflake" really needs to be re-evaluated.

I mention a shitty male stereotype, and unrelated, you get offended. That's a snowflake. You're offended at something I said unrelated to you. You're trying hard to be offended.

Otherwise, I've lived more places than you and met more types of people, and also what the Burrito said.
 
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36. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 21:43 RedEye9
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 20:13:
Acleacius wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 18:50:
OMG, what do you get the Ant who has everything! Cake Cheers

Ant is often remarking on the old state of his computer.

Ant, if you start a GoFundMe for a new PC, I'll toss in $20.

Just think of how much more quickly you could fish links with a new PC.
Ditto, i'll do the same. But don't try pulling this Birthday scam more that 2 or 3 times a year because someone will be sure to catch on.
 
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35. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 20:13 jdreyer
 
Acleacius wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 18:50:
OMG, what do you get the Ant who has everything! Cake Cheers

Ant is often remarking on the old state of his computer.

Ant, if you start a GoFundMe for a new PC, I'll toss in $20.

Just think of how much more quickly you could fish links with a new PC.
 
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34. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 19:26 Kxmode
 
Ant has submitted more links over the years than a Zelda convention

LOL. Classic Blue wit! Sharp!

Don't celebrate birthdays, but thanks Ant for all the Links (cannot undo meaning!)
 
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33. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 18:50 Acleacius
 
OMG, what do you get the Ant who has everything! Cake Cheers  
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32. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 18:23 Burrito of Peace
 
CthulhuFan wrote on Jan 11, 2019, 17:52:
So, you're not judging, when you say:

the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin'

But it's all okay, right, because you're making fun of some toothless hillbilly instead of some protected class...

As someone who genuinely does like in the sticks of Central Texas, the rednecks deserve all the mocking and ridicule that one could possibly heap upon them. As a data set of a larger demographic, they are generally the loudest, most ignorant, least educated, and most insecure people one can find.

In point of fact, Mrs. Burrito and I went out to breakfast this morning and there was this older redneck going on and on about "the gays" and "what being a real man is". It was some of the most poisonous, toxic, holdover bullshit from the 50s one might imagine. It was nearly a caricature of itself and the person speaking it.

So it very much does exist and it is, like those who would espouse it, fucking ignorant.
 
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31. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2019, 17:52 CthulhuFan
 
Well, that's all fun and entertaining; nice try.

So, you're not judging, when you say:

the giant pickup truck guy that thinks you're not a real man unless you're huntin' and fishin'

But it's all okay, right, because you're making fun of some toothless hillbilly instead of some protected class...
 
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