Discord Store Undercuts Epic With 10% Split

Why not 90/10? Asks the Discord Blog innocently, as the chat app announces that beginning next year their fledgling game store will begin offering developers 90% of the revenue for games sold there, taking only a 10% cut for themselves. This seems like a response to Epic Games, who made waves when they announced their new store would only keep a 12% cut. Now word is the Discord Store has passed them on the race to the bottom line:
Earlier this year though, we noticed a change happening in the game industry. We talked to a lot of developers, and many of them feel that current stores are not earning their 30% of the usual 70/30 revenue share. Because of this, we now see developers creating their own stores and launchers to distribute their games instead of focusing on what’s really important — making great games and cultivating amazing communities.

So, we asked ourselves a few more questions. Why does it cost 30% to distribute games? Is this the only reason developers are building their own stores and launchers to distribute games?

Turns out, it does not cost 30% to distribute games in 2018. After doing some research, we discovered that we can build amazing developer tools, run them, and give developers the majority of the revenue share.

So, starting in 2019, we are going to extend access to the Discord store and our extremely efficient game patcher by releasing a self-serve game publishing platform. No matter what size, from AAA to single person teams, developers will be able to self publish on the Discord store with 90% revenue share going to the developer. The remaining 10% covers our operating costs, and we’ll explore lowering it by optimizing our tech and making things more efficient.

We will also empower developers to communicate with their players by improving Verified Servers, extending their ability to add great content to the Activity Feed, and more. We believe if we iterate and work with developers, we can reverse platform fragmentation in the game industry while connecting developers and players closer together.
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Cutter wrote on Dec 14, 2018, 18:32:
That's the one major downside. You never know when these storefronts and/or games will disappear. Which is why I won't buy into any of it unless they run it like GOG where I can DL and keep a copy of the game and run it offline in perpetuity.

Isn't the Epic store DRM free?
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RaZ0r! wrote on Dec 14, 2018, 17:37:
Let the race to the bottom begin! In the end, Steam will still be standing.

This to me is not what the "race to the bottom mean", this is a market being competitive.
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RedEye9 wrote on Dec 14, 2018, 18:48:
Oh Snap!
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uh wait, wat
How is this good for the consumer???
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Dec 14, 2018, 18:48
 
Oh Snap!
Merry XMas MoFos
A mask is not a political statement.
It's an IQ test. It's a compassion test. It's a decency test. It's a social responsibility test.
Cover Your Eyes for even more protection.
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Blackhawk wrote on Dec 14, 2018, 17:42:
This is excellent. We have well-funded companies competing with each other for developer business, which means that they'll end up competing with each other for customers. Steam has run a near-monopoly since PC games left the retail shelves.

Remember the Steam sales of the past? This is how we get them back.

The downside being that should some companies end up way out in front, the others could collapse, taking game libraries with them.

That's the one major downside. You never know when these storefronts and/or games will disappear. Which is why I won't buy into any of it unless they run it like GOG where I can DL and keep a copy of the game and run it offline in perpetuity.
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 Cutter
 
Derp to all the idiots here that have always Valve has a lot of overhead and needs the 30 points. Distributors could likely go as 5% and still make money doing this. Nice to see other people out there are finally realizing this.
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Dec 14, 2018, 17:46
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Everyone should remember that right now all we have is people throwing numbers around...;) It remains to be seen if Epic (or anyone else) can provide the services that GOG and Steam have been providing for years--and at a fraction of the cost these services provide. Competition is great and I'm all for it--but the fact is that soon Epic will have to put up or shut up...;) I put it that way, really, as I see this recent announcement on the part of Epic as pretty much a colossal blunder--similar to Epic's departure from the hardware and the communities of people who put Epic on the map--people gaming with PCs (instead of consoles.) Epic just walked off and has now returned since the x86 PC architecture has devoured everything else in sight except the mobile market--itself way behind technically...;) Epic *had* to come back, etc.

But why not do the intelligent thing and get all your ducks in a row, get everything up, running, and working, and *then* make your undercutting announcement? Because really, as far as anyone knows, Epic may be doing nothing except making a lot of noise just to wrangle much cheaper rates from Steam for its software. We shall see...;)
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This is excellent. We have well-funded companies competing with each other for developer business, which means that they'll end up competing with each other for customers. Steam has run a near-monopoly since PC games left the retail shelves.

Remember the Steam sales of the past? This is how we get them back.

The downside being that should some companies end up way out in front, the others could collapse, taking game libraries with them.
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Let the race to the bottom begin! In the end, Steam will still be standing.
I pwnz j00!
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Dec 14, 2018, 17:33
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Next: Origin will offer distribution for free followed by GOG saying they will pay an additional 10% to developers selling their games exclusively via GOG.

I don't think this will end well - just sayin'. Sure, we would all like to see prices fall (they won't - the companies will sell at the same price and will keep every additional dime they make for themselves/their shareholders) or at least see the developers make some extra money for their work, but this is not how this will work, I am afraid.

Hopefully I will be wrong, though.
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Maybe this trend motivates Valve to do more than just Steam?
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Re: Discord Store Undercuts Epic With 10% Split
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About time. 30% cut is absurd and monopolistic.
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