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17. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2018, 09:04 RedEye9
 
VaranDragon wrote on Dec 7, 2018, 09:01:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 7, 2018, 08:52:
It's not, after 9/11 the level of fear, ignorance and omg was at 11. They could have passed anything they wanted.

Yeah but why would you want them to? I mean they passed the Patriot Act which basically fucked everyone's privacy every which way anyway right?
I never said I wanted them to or it would have been a great thing to do. As you noted the Patriot Act was bad enough.
Words that make me shiver; Patriot Act, Homeland etc.
 
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16. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2018, 09:01 VaranDragon
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 7, 2018, 08:52:
It's not, after 9/11 the level of fear, ignorance and omg was at 11. They could have passed anything they wanted.

Yeah but why would you want them to? I mean they passed the Patriot Act which basically fucked everyone's privacy every which way anyway right?
 
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15. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2018, 08:52 RedEye9
 
NKD wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 21:10:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 20:06:
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 19:53:
NKD wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 17:56:
Not sure about that. Gorsuch is an originalist like Scalia, with a history of "pro-defendant" interpretations of the 4th Amendment, Roberts is also a wildcard on 4th Amendment cases since he doesn't have a strong position in either direction.
I hope your optimism proves true. But personally I wouldn't bet a single penny on it.
He yelled at his job application and really likes beer (i mean wtf). Major Danger will robinson
I hope I am proven wrong, but i doubt I will be.

That's Kavanaugh you dweeb. Fail! Gorsuch appointment was the stolen one, but with drama free confirmation. I don't know much about Kavanaugh but I suspect he would vote for whatever sounds good after slamming a half case of Natty.
doh
I had to put the 293 days stolen scotus seat deep in the recesses of my swampy brain lest it take hold of my delicate psyche.
thanks for dredging it up, i think
VaranDragon wrote on Dec 7, 2018, 03:11:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 16:58:
If the US Congress hadn't had their heads up their asses they would have passed something like this the day after 9/11 by an overwhelming majority.
Not sure if sarcasm...
It's not. After 9/11 the level of fear, ignorance and omg was at 11. Congress could have passed "anything" and the scared masses would have genuflected.
Now whether it would hold up under later review is a diffent story.
I know one things for sure; If there is ever another major terrorist strike I'm gonna go into the flag selling business (buttons, sew-ons, t-shirts, bumper stickers and ones on a pole) and retire in luxury.

 
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14. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 7, 2018, 03:11 VaranDragon
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 16:58:
If the US Congress hadn't had their heads up their asses they would have passed something like this the day after 9/11 by an overwhelming majority.


Not sure if sarcasm...
 
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13. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 21:10 NKD
 
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 20:06:
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 19:53:
NKD wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 17:56:
Not sure about that. Gorsuch is an originalist like Scalia, with a history of "pro-defendant" interpretations of the 4th Amendment, Roberts is also a wildcard on 4th Amendment cases since he doesn't have a strong position in either direction.
I hope your optimism proves true. But personally I wouldn't bet a single penny on it.
He yelled at his job application and really likes beer (i mean wtf). Major Danger will robinson
I hope I am proven wrong, but i doubt I will be.

That's Kavanaugh you dweeb. Fail! Gorsuch appointment was the stolen one, but with drama free confirmation. I don't know much about Kavanaugh but I suspect he would vote for whatever sounds good after slamming a half case of Natty.
 
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I keep warning you. Doors and corners, kid. That's where they get you. Humans are too fucking stupid to listen.
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12. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 20:06 RedEye9
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 19:53:
NKD wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 17:56:
Not sure about that. Gorsuch is an originalist like Scalia, with a history of "pro-defendant" interpretations of the 4th Amendment, Roberts is also a wildcard on 4th Amendment cases since he doesn't have a strong position in either direction.
I hope your optimism proves true. But personally I wouldn't bet a single penny on it.
He yelled at his job application and really likes beer (i mean wtf). Major Danger will robinson
I hope I am proven wrong, but i doubt I will be.
 
Avatar 58135
 
https://www.lawfareblog.com/topic/russia-connection
The game’s afoot.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/fact-checker-most-repeated-disinformation/
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11. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 19:53 Mr. Tact
 
NKD wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 17:56:
Not sure about that. Gorsuch is an originalist like Scalia, with a history of "pro-defendant" interpretations of the 4th Amendment, Roberts is also a wildcard on 4th Amendment cases since he doesn't have a strong position in either direction.
I hope your optimism proves true. But personally I wouldn't bet a single penny on it.
 
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10. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 18:02 1badmf
 
tldr: did the new laws mandate backdoors into all encryption? if so that'd be a disaster cuz even well-encrypted things like DRM and blu-ray handshakes take little over a month for the warez community to crack. how easy would it be with the same introduced weakness built in to everything?!?  
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9. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 17:56 NKD
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 17:12:
Creston wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 12:22:
US government looks at Australia and gets a mad, mad boner.
Aye. The worst part is while such laws in the US would be almost certainly challenged as unconstitutional , I suspect our right leaning SCOTUS would validate them...

Not sure about that. Gorsuch is an originalist like Scalia, with a history of "pro-defendant" interpretations of the 4th Amendment, Roberts is also a wildcard on 4th Amendment cases since he doesn't have a strong position in either direction.
 
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8. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 17:12 Mr. Tact
 
Creston wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 12:22:
US government looks at Australia and gets a mad, mad boner.
Aye. The worst part is while such laws in the US would be almost certainly challenged as unconstitutional , I suspect our right leaning SCOTUS would validate them...
 
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7. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 16:58 RedEye9
 

If the US Congress hadn't had their heads up their asses they would have passed something like this the day after 9/11 by an overwhelming majority.

 
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6. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 16:19 Bard
 
Squirmer wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 15:54:
Australian politicians are the stupidest people in the world. Australian journalists aren't much better. They should have been outraged about this because these laws could absolutely be used to investigate journalists' sources in any whistleblowing case. But they're all still cowed by any vague suggestion of "terrorism".

Then there's the possibility that these laws could cripple the country's tech sector if companies decide to move overseas. Great work.

Aussie Journalists are a huge target...
 
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5. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 15:54 Squirmer
 
Australian politicians are the stupidest people in the world. Australian journalists aren't much better. They should have been outraged about this because these laws could absolutely be used to investigate journalists' sources in any whistleblowing case. But they're all still cowed by any vague suggestion of "terrorism".

Then there's the possibility that these laws could cripple the country's tech sector if companies decide to move overseas. Great work.
 
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4. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 15:08 Burrito of Peace
 
Oz, eat a bag of dicks.

Everyone else who values your privacy, find a VPN solution, use it to connect outside your country, and use a point to point encryption protocol. There are many easy to use software packages that already exist.

The battle for digital liberty has now escalated. FIGHT BACK!
 
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3. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 12:22 Creston
 
US government looks at Australia and gets a mad, mad boner.
 
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2. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 12:11 Bard
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 6, 2018, 11:41:
"It's all about putting people first."

Yeah. The elites in power. Good one Oz. Rolleyes

You can think of Australia as a testbed for all the worst surveillance/policies for the Western world.

When I returned there after a 15 year absence I couldn't believe how it had changed into a security state.
 
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1. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Dec 6, 2018, 11:41 Cutter
 
"It's all about putting people first."

Yeah. The elites in power. Good one Oz. Rolleyes
 
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