Unreal Tournament Development On Hold

Variety has word that Epic Games' Unreal Tournament remake is no longer in active development. In a conversation about the news that Epic is opening an online store, CEO Tim Sweeney tells them the game remains available, but has taken a back seat to the phenomenon that is Fortnite:
Sweeney was discussing Tuesday’s announcement of the Epic Games Store, when he was asked what impact development of the store and the continued growth and support of “Fortnite” is having on older projects, like “Unreal Tournament.”

“‘Unreal Tournament’ remains available in the store but isn’t actively developed,” he told Variety. “We’ve recently worked with GOG on making classic Epic Games titles available and we’re planning to bring more of them to the store in their original glory.”
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Dec 6, 2018, 13:21
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 6, 2018, 13:21
Dec 6, 2018, 13:21
 
It is just simple curiosity... it is clearly a non-standard working environment and I am wondering aloud what it is like. I have neither praised nor criticized it.

I personally have had to deal with working for a corporation when for a time I was significantly under-utilized as a worker. Now in my case it was a fairly unique situation, I was a member of a small team (four people) who were responsible for a legacy product which was still generating millions of dollars of revenue. So, basically the corporation didn't really care/notice since it was a heck of a deal from their point of view.
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Dec 6, 2018, 10:39
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 6, 2018, 10:39
Dec 6, 2018, 10:39
 

What does it matter what a company does with its employees or how it allocates resources.
Some of ya'll act like it's a personal affront that a company is not working "hard" enough on something you think they should be working on all the while willfully ignoring the things they are working on.

Valve maintains the store, related forums and marketplace.
They also update and maintain their games including Dota, CSGO etc.
They develop hardware (steam link) and software solutions (link app) for gamers.
It's not just a bunch of people collecting a paycheck huddled around a water cooler.

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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold
Dec 6, 2018, 08:25
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 6, 2018, 08:25
Dec 6, 2018, 08:25
 
Yeah, but they couldn't all have been working on that, right? Even with Artifact it seems like they'd have a lot of time on their hands...
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Dec 6, 2018, 01:43
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 6, 2018, 01:43
Dec 6, 2018, 01:43
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 22:08:
CJ_Parker wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 20:37:
lol they can't even make a simple boom boom game anymore... losers.

Oh well, I guess it's the Valve syndrome. Once you start bathing in cash, the challenge is shifting from trying to make decent games to maximizing profits and getting to that next x billion dollars.
You know, that is kind of an interesting point. What do you think it takes to keep a job at Valve? I mean... what are they doing? It seems like they aren't doing anything. Does the entire Valve office drive to work each day and just spend 8 hours surfing the web and playing games? I don't suppose any Valve employees are hanging around and could shed some light on the subject?

They made Artifact. And they it made solely to maximize profits until the players made an uproar. That should tell you everything right there.
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Dec 6, 2018, 01:11
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 6, 2018, 01:11
Dec 6, 2018, 01:11
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 14:45:
The development of Unreal Tournament was poorly executed. It started as a tech demo that did nothing to wow audiences, then was slowly developed over time. There was no buzz, no hype, no killer features or innovative gameplay. As much of a fan of the original series as I am I just had zero interest in following an early access game.

Fortnite, on the otherhand, is actively developed and has extremely agile development. It's genuinely just a better game.

That's because the latest incarnation of UT was developed by two people working on the game on their lunch breaks. You can't compare a tech demo to a game that was in active AAA development for years.
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold
Dec 5, 2018, 22:08
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 5, 2018, 22:08
Dec 5, 2018, 22:08
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 20:37:
lol they can't even make a simple boom boom game anymore... losers.

Oh well, I guess it's the Valve syndrome. Once you start bathing in cash, the challenge is shifting from trying to make decent games to maximizing profits and getting to that next x billion dollars.
You know, that is kind of an interesting point. What do you think it takes to keep a job at Valve? I mean... what are they doing? It seems like they aren't doing anything. Does the entire Valve office drive to work each day and just spend 8 hours surfing the web and playing games? I don't suppose any Valve employees are hanging around and could shed some light on the subject?
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Dec 5, 2018, 20:37
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 5, 2018, 20:37
Dec 5, 2018, 20:37
 
lol they can't even make a simple boom boom game anymore... losers.

Oh well, I guess it's the Valve syndrome. Once you start bathing in cash, the challenge is shifting from trying to make decent games to maximizing profits and getting to that next x billion dollars.
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Dec 5, 2018, 16:32
Osc8r
 
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 5, 2018, 16:32
Dec 5, 2018, 16:32
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Meh, the newer versions of UT have been extremely underwhelming.

All they need to do is sell the 'UT Announcer Pack' in Fortnite and they'd make a killing, much more so than they'd make developing another generic shooter.
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:53
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 5, 2018, 15:53
Dec 5, 2018, 15:53
 El Pit
 
Fortnite is dominating!!!

Unfortunately...
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:41
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:41
 
Desalus wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 15:20:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 15:04:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 14:45:
The development of Unreal Tournament was poorly executed. It started as a tech demo that did nothing to wow audiences, then was slowly developed over time. There was no buzz, no hype, no killer features or innovative gameplay. As much of a fan of the original series as I am I just had zero interest in following an early access game.

Fortnite, on the otherhand, is actively developed and has extremely agile development. It's genuinely just a better game.
I don't disagree, but I have no interest in playing Fortnite. Well, I'd play the zombie game if I could do it single player.

Yeah, same here. I have absolutely no interest in Battle Royale and Save the World got old very quickly. I really hope that with Fortnite's sucess and Epic releasing their online store that they don't become like another Valve. I think the constant cash flow from Steam definitely hasn't been good for Valve's game project timelines and innovation. Perhaps they start becoming too innovative and end up throwing a ton of work away just because it doesn't work or it isn't fun. The only remaining games we see are the tried and true formulas which aren't innovative at all.
Hey now. Valve just released Artifact. It seemed very innovative at sucking cash from whale's pockets.
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:20
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:20
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 15:04:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 14:45:
The development of Unreal Tournament was poorly executed. It started as a tech demo that did nothing to wow audiences, then was slowly developed over time. There was no buzz, no hype, no killer features or innovative gameplay. As much of a fan of the original series as I am I just had zero interest in following an early access game.

Fortnite, on the otherhand, is actively developed and has extremely agile development. It's genuinely just a better game.
I don't disagree, but I have no interest in playing Fortnite. Well, I'd play the zombie game if I could do it single player.

Yeah, same here. I have absolutely no interest in Battle Royale and Save the World got old very quickly. I really hope that with Fortnite's sucess and Epic releasing their online store that they don't become like another Valve. I think the constant cash flow from Steam definitely hasn't been good for Valve's game project timelines and innovation. Perhaps they start becoming too innovative and end up throwing a ton of work away just because it doesn't work or it isn't fun. The only remaining games we see are the tried and true formulas which aren't innovative at all.
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:19
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Re: Unreal Tournament Development On Hold Dec 5, 2018, 15:19
Dec 5, 2018, 15:19
 
Vehicle CTF for Unreal Tournament was some of the most fun I ever had in multiplayer video games.
Right below LMCTF capture the flag quake mode with the grappling hook.
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:16
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:16
 
My snarky, uninformed thought is "Of course... need to rework to add a battle royale mode and more microstransactions into it"
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:04
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:04
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 14:45:
The development of Unreal Tournament was poorly executed. It started as a tech demo that did nothing to wow audiences, then was slowly developed over time. There was no buzz, no hype, no killer features or innovative gameplay. As much of a fan of the original series as I am I just had zero interest in following an early access game.

Fortnite, on the otherhand, is actively developed and has extremely agile development. It's genuinely just a better game.
I don't disagree, but I have no interest in playing Fortnite. Well, I'd play the zombie game if I could do it single player.
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:01
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Dec 5, 2018, 15:01
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 13:46:
Xero wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 11:37:
Good memories with the original UT. I remember back then you were either on the Quake 3 Arena side or UT. I loved UT's diversity in maps and the guns. The mutators were awesome.

Who remembers Facing Worlds?

"HEADSHOT."
Horrible memories, my buddy in the opposing tower with the sniper rifer, repeatedly turning me into hamburger meat. what a meanie
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Dec 5, 2018, 14:45
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Dec 5, 2018, 14:45
 
The development of Unreal Tournament was poorly executed. It started as a tech demo that did nothing to wow audiences, then was slowly developed over time. There was no buzz, no hype, no killer features or innovative gameplay. As much of a fan of the original series as I am I just had zero interest in following an early access game.

Fortnite, on the otherhand, is actively developed and has extremely agile development. It's genuinely just a better game.
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:48
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:48
 
Desalus wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 13:08:
This is disappointing news but completely unsurprising. The UT team were taken off of UT to develop the battle royale version of Fornite so it only makes sense that they continued development on that instead of UT. Hopefully Epic will one day return to developing UT but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Me too. Bummed cuz this is one of my favorite series. Maybe they'll come back to it in a couple of years when the Fortnite fad dies down.
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:46
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:46
 
Xero wrote on Dec 5, 2018, 11:37:
Good memories with the original UT. I remember back then you were either on the Quake 3 Arena side or UT. I loved UT's diversity in maps and the guns. The mutators were awesome.

Who remembers Facing Worlds?

"HEADSHOT."
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:08
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Dec 5, 2018, 13:08
 
This is disappointing news but completely unsurprising. The UT team were taken off of UT to develop the battle royale version of Fornite so it only makes sense that they continued development on that instead of UT. Hopefully Epic will one day return to developing UT but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Dec 5, 2018, 12:29
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Dec 5, 2018, 12:29
 
I remember UT to be the first single player game that I cought cheating! Like if you played against bots, in the final stages of a match they would always get better, most probably because they just reacted to you pressing fire, like the enemies in the original Unreal did. Just recently the same happened in the GOG freebie Shadow Warrior 2, which basically makes the rocket launcher and other slow weapons useles...
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