RedEye9 wrote on Nov 26, 2018, 10:24:

jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2018, 00:12:

RedEye9 wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 13:58:

jdreyer wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 23:46:
Whereas in Prometheus both what and how they did things was dumb and illogical, in AC the what they do is smart, and they fall down on the how.

I particularly enjoyed the part in Alien Covenant where they landed on an uncharted planet but thought it wise not to wear a helmeted space suit complete with life support, because who needs smart and logical space exploration. amirite
Nah, let's just go explore all free balling and nekkid.

TLDR
I've rewatched Prometheus several times. It ain't as bad as its made out to be. CinemaScore B whereas Life gets a C+

Interesting that AC also gets a B on CinemaScore. IMO it's a more cohesive film than Prometheus, even if it still has dumb moments.

I'ma gonna hafta disagree.
What's the purpose of having a colony ship that requires a mobile robot (aka android) who's sole purpose is to push a button for routine upkeep. All that shit should be automatic.
Deploy the charging sails ... oops there's a supernova and the sails have to be stowed, but the only thing that can push the retract button is 1000's of feet away. So it should at least run at top android speed
right? but it doesn't, and instead merrily strolls to the button. ah, too late, so sad
even the act of removing bad embryos should have been automated

co·he·sive
characterized by or causing cohesion.
co·he·sion
the action or fact of forming a united whole.

I am going with another form of 'coher' .. incoherent

did i mention that i liked prometheus 27.89% more than ac.

Yup, still deeply flawed, I agree. For example, The way only the space suit guy gets the radio signal is dumb. Also, Michael "perfects" the aliens by making the larval eggs? Maybe it's just me, but spreading via spores seems much better.

Would love an Alien movie with the plot and science as tight as something like Arrival.

jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2018, 00:12:

RedEye9 wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 13:58:

jdreyer wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 23:46:
Whereas in Prometheus both what and how they did things was dumb and illogical, in AC the what they do is smart, and they fall down on the how.

I particularly enjoyed the part in Alien Covenant where they landed on an uncharted planet but thought it wise not to wear a helmeted space suit complete with life support, because who needs smart and logical space exploration. amirite
Nah, let's just go explore all free balling and nekkid.

TLDR
I've rewatched Prometheus several times. It ain't as bad as its made out to be. CinemaScore B whereas Life gets a C+

Interesting that AC also gets a B on CinemaScore. IMO it's a more cohesive film than Prometheus, even if it still has dumb moments.

I'ma gonna hafta disagree.
What's the purpose of having a colony ship that requires a mobile robot (aka android) who's sole purpose is to push a button for routine upkeep. All that shit should be automatic.
Deploy the charging sails ... oops there's a supernova and the sails have to be stowed, but the only thing that can push the retract button is 1000's of feet away. So it should at least run at top android speed
right? but it doesn't, and instead merrily strolls to the button. ah, too late, so sad
even the act of removing bad embryos should have been automated

co·he·sive
characterized by or causing cohesion.
co·he·sion
the action or fact of forming a united whole.

I am going with another form of 'coher' .. incoherent

did i mention that i liked prometheus 27.89% more than ac.

RedEye9 wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 13:58:

jdreyer wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 23:46:
Whereas in Prometheus both what and how they did things was dumb and illogical, in AC the what they do is smart, and they fall down on the how.

I particularly enjoyed the part in Alien Covenant where they landed on an uncharted planet but thought it wise not to wear a helmeted space suit complete with life support, because who needs smart and logical space exploration. amirite
Nah, let's just go explore all free balling and nekkid.

TLDR
I've rewatched Prometheus several times. It ain't as bad as its made out to be. CinemaScore B whereas Life gets a C+

Interesting that AC also gets a B on CinemaScore. IMO it's a more cohesive film than Prometheus, even if it still has dumb moments.

jdreyer wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 23:46:
Whereas in Prometheus both what and how they did things was dumb and illogical, in AC the what they do is smart, and they fall down on the how.

I particularly enjoyed the part in Alien Covenant where they landed on an uncharted planet but thought it wise not to wear a helmeted space suit complete with life support, because who needs smart and logical space exploration. amirite
Nah, let's just go explore all free balling and nekkid.

TLDR
I've rewatched Prometheus several times. It ain't as bad as its made out to be. CinemaScore B whereas Life gets a C+

If any of you guys are on Youtube, (like I have to ask) check out the channel 'Alien Theory'. It's bad ass and he was just talking about a sequel to Isolation had been announced. Huh? I hear you say. Well, it's a sequel to the story but it's in comic book/graphic novel form. Yeah, I know. You can see more about that here...

Anyway, me thinks this will be a mobile game. I mean, these days 'mobile' games have really started to up their game, so to speak and they aren't the dregs of gaming like they used to be. While not quite up to console, much less PC, standards, if done right they can be interesting and hold their own. But like everyone else, I'm hoping for a sequel to Isolation or maybe even a proper action game like Colonial Marines was >supposed< to be...

=-Rigs-=

Please be a proper Sequel to Isolation, my game of the year 2014. For me the Alien "AI" behaved just perfect, guess I was playing it "right". It was a bit too long (that Android section) with an awesome finale.

jdreyer wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 00:56:

WitcherOntheProwl wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 00:06:
If this isn't a sequel to Isolation, then this game can go right to hell. If it's a game set in a modern alien universe, I would be okay with that. Just need a sequel for Isolation more than anything.

Did you play Isolation in VR? Wondering how it was...

No I don't do VR. Pretty expensive and not really into the whole VR thing.

WitcherOntheProwl wrote on Nov 25, 2018, 00:06:
If this isn't a sequel to Isolation, then this game can go right to hell. If it's a game set in a modern alien universe, I would be okay with that. Just need a sequel for Isolation more than anything.

Did you play Isolation in VR? Wondering how it was...

If this isn't a sequel to Isolation, then this game can go right to hell. If it's a game set in a modern alien universe, I would be okay with that. Just need a sequel for Isolation more than anything.

SunnyD wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 21:44:
Alien Blackout sounds like a great band or drink name game.

Fixed.

DangerDog wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 15:39:
cool, as long as they stay far, far away from the prequels.

just remembered that Disney now owns Alien franchise, we need to get all cross license up in here with Alien vs Iron Man vs Darth Vader.

While I loathe Prometheus, I thought Alien Covenant, while still flawed, wasn't nearly as bad. Whereas in Prometheus both what and how they did things was dumb and illogical, in AC the what they do is smart, and they fall down on the how. It's also gorgeously shot, the CG is seamless, and it helps explain some of the more head-scratching elements of Prometheus.

It would be nice to see a movie where things go to shit in spite of smart people doing everything correctly.

Alien Blackout sounds like a great band or drink name.

Alien Blackout... COD Blackout... Xenomorph Royale wooo!

Alien Blackout - is this the name of a story dealing with Ridley Scott's blackout when he created the two Alien prequels?

Isn't it the Weyland-Yutani Corporation?

DangerDog wrote on Nov 24, 2018, 15:39:
just remembered that Disney now owns Alien franchise, we need to get all cross license up in here with Alien vs Iron Man vs Darth Vader.

Not until they finalize the film inspired by Patton Oswalt though.

cool, as long as they stay far, far away from the prequels.

just remembered that Disney now owns Alien franchise, we need to get all cross license up in here with Alien vs Iron Man vs Darth Vader.

This comment was edited on Nov 24, 2018, 15:57.