eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 22:54:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 21:19:eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 18:53:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 11:05:Bill Borre wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:46:
If the AI was actively selecting against women without its being programmed to do so beforehand perhaps it's indicating a real issue? Strange how politics warps reality.
But it wasn't, is what they're saying. It was failing all around, and this was one of the bigger issues. Invalidating a resume for having the word "women" on it would be a bad thing, no? It wasn't evaluating the resume "on the merits," as people that have no clue about hiring like to use, but immediately putting anything with the word "women" on the bottom, regardless of how qualified the person was otherwise.
I honestly can't think of a single reason why you would write your gender in a job application by the way...
Spoke at a women in marketing conference
President of the women's STEM initiative of Stanford
Elected to 30 Women under 30 by Wired
Now you made me curious, do you think someone picking people for a job cares about things like that? (well the AI here did, and that's bad, but aside that?) Can only really base it on myself but I'd hire you sight unseen and gender unknown if your resumé convinces me on merits alone. I assume big corporations are NOT doing that though.
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 21:19:eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 18:53:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 11:05:Bill Borre wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:46:
If the AI was actively selecting against women without its being programmed to do so beforehand perhaps it's indicating a real issue? Strange how politics warps reality.
But it wasn't, is what they're saying. It was failing all around, and this was one of the bigger issues. Invalidating a resume for having the word "women" on it would be a bad thing, no? It wasn't evaluating the resume "on the merits," as people that have no clue about hiring like to use, but immediately putting anything with the word "women" on the bottom, regardless of how qualified the person was otherwise.
I honestly can't think of a single reason why you would write your gender in a job application by the way...
Spoke at a women in marketing conference
President of the women's STEM initiative of Stanford
Elected to 30 Women under 30 by Wired
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 18:53:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 11:05:Bill Borre wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:46:
If the AI was actively selecting against women without its being programmed to do so beforehand perhaps it's indicating a real issue? Strange how politics warps reality.
But it wasn't, is what they're saying. It was failing all around, and this was one of the bigger issues. Invalidating a resume for having the word "women" on it would be a bad thing, no? It wasn't evaluating the resume "on the merits," as people that have no clue about hiring like to use, but immediately putting anything with the word "women" on the bottom, regardless of how qualified the person was otherwise.
I honestly can't think of a single reason why you would write your gender in a job application by the way...
Cutter wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 18:06:NKD wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 13:27:Cutter wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:55:
AI doesn't exist. If said bias existed it was because of the variables it was programed with and nothing more.
Yes, because it's impossible to have a computer that iterates on its own code according to some set of goals and might come to unanticipated results. Humans are created by GOD and powered by MAGIC that can't be put into a machine!
How dense are you? The bias was coded in to begin with. The machine does not "think" for itself. That would be magic. Do even grasp the biological concept of how thought even works?
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 11:05:Bill Borre wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:46:
If the AI was actively selecting against women without its being programmed to do so beforehand perhaps it's indicating a real issue? Strange how politics warps reality.
But it wasn't, is what they're saying. It was failing all around, and this was one of the bigger issues. Invalidating a resume for having the word "women" on it would be a bad thing, no? It wasn't evaluating the resume "on the merits," as people that have no clue about hiring like to use, but immediately putting anything with the word "women" on the bottom, regardless of how qualified the person was otherwise.
NKD wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 13:27:Cutter wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:55:
AI doesn't exist. If said bias existed it was because of the variables it was programed with and nothing more.
Yes, because it's impossible to have a computer that iterates on its own code according to some set of goals and might come to unanticipated results. Humans are created by GOD and powered by MAGIC that can't be put into a machine!
VaranDragon wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 14:07:
This is the company that values its employees so much it actually has an artificial intelligence recruiting tool, instead of an actual person doing the job.
/slowclap
Cutter wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:55:
AI doesn't exist. If said bias existed it was because of the variables it was programed with and nothing more.
Bill Borre wrote on Oct 10, 2018, 10:46:
If the AI was actively selecting against women without its being programmed to do so beforehand perhaps it's indicating a real issue? Strange how politics warps reality.