Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 18:28:
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:The average gain from a moderately overclocked 1080 Ti to an 2080 Ti is 14% in 1080p and 23% in 1440p. That will be even lower when you overclock your 1080 Ti even more.
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.
The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.
It looks better in 4K, which is 37%, but still laughable when compared to the last generation gain, which was 58, 66 and 75% respectively, from 980 Ti to 1080 Ti.
Come on... let's use our brains a little. They went from 28nm Maxwell to 16nm Pascal because TSMC could not hack a high powered 20nm process.
The huge leap back then was an exception. Everyone knows that and it was NEVER to be expected that Pascal to Turing would even be in the same ballpark because the 12nm TSMC process is actually just an improved 16nm node (16nm+).
The performance increase in an apple to apple comparison is pretty impressive, i.e. GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 and GTX 1080Ti to RTX 2080Ti. Please stop the retarded "but if I overclock the 1080Ti
" stupidity because you can overclock the RTX as well. Let's stick to apple vs. apple comparisons.
Depending on the game we are looking at substantial gains
(up to 60%+) in 1440p/2160p. The average in apple to apple comparisons is about 35% to 45%. That's pretty fucking good for such a small shrink from 16nm to 12nm.
You'd have to be very uninformed to expect the same performance leaps we've seen last gen. These are very decent results we are seeing here.
It's very simple though: If you already own a GTX 1080 or 1080Ti then the only upgrade that makes any sense is a straight one to the successor. Upgrading from 1080Ti to 2080 makes no sense.
It is up to anyone to decide whether they want to pay the new gen's premium. As a 1080Ti owner I won't. Only the 2080Ti would make sense for me but fuck €1200 for a video card. Could I afford it? Yeah. Do I want to? Fuck no. Gotta have some limits and respect for da moolah. It don't grow on trees.