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GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews

Gamers eager for independent perspectives on NVIDIA's newly announced GeForce RTX 2080 graphics cards need wait no longer, as the review embargo expired at 9:00 am EDT today. Here's a list of evaluations of the new cards and their support for ray traced graphics:

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32. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 20, 2018, 05:02 Muscular Beaver
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 22:28:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 18:28:
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.
The average gain from a moderately overclocked 1080 Ti to an 2080 Ti is 14% in 1080p and 23% in 1440p. That will be even lower when you overclock your 1080 Ti even more.
It looks better in 4K, which is 37%, but still laughable when compared to the last generation gain, which was 58, 66 and 75% respectively, from 980 Ti to 1080 Ti.

Come on... let's use our brains a little. They went from 28nm Maxwell to 16nm Pascal because TSMC could not hack a high powered 20nm process.

The huge leap back then was an exception. Everyone knows that and it was NEVER to be expected that Pascal to Turing would even be in the same ballpark because the 12nm TSMC process is actually just an improved 16nm node (16nm+).

The performance increase in an apple to apple comparison is pretty impressive, i.e. GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 and GTX 1080Ti to RTX 2080Ti. Please stop the retarded "but if I overclock the 1080Ti" stupidity because you can overclock the RTX as well. Let's stick to apple vs. apple comparisons.

Depending on the game we are looking at substantial gains (up to 60%+) in 1440p/2160p. The average in apple to apple comparisons is about 35% to 45%. That's pretty fucking good for such a small shrink from 16nm to 12nm.
You'd have to be very uninformed to expect the same performance leaps we've seen last gen. These are very decent results we are seeing here.

It's very simple though: If you already own a GTX 1080 or 1080Ti then the only upgrade that makes any sense is a straight one to the successor. Upgrading from 1080Ti to 2080 makes no sense.

It is up to anyone to decide whether they want to pay the new gen's premium. As a 1080Ti owner I won't. Only the 2080Ti would make sense for me but fuck 1200 for a video card. Could I afford it? Yeah. Do I want to? Fuck no. Gotta have some limits and respect for da moolah. It don't grow on trees.
Well, most cards you can buy are overclocked. And if you take that overclock away, it doesnt look much better anyway, because these cards dont seem to overclock better than the last gen.
Apple to apple its 21 and 31% (1080p and 1440p). The 37% I mentioned for 4K was actually apple to apple.
And I already talked about your argument here: If that was the case, the price wouldnt have been as high as they are. But the increase is comparable to the last generation. And that is ridiculous for what they offer.
I was talking about the average of 16 recent games. Some games show MUCH worse numbers, some much better.
Lets take 1440p. Of the 16 games the worst one shows a 20% improvement (FarCry5) and the best one a 58% improvement (Senuas Sacrifice). The average is still what I said.

And yes, I use the same source as you.

These cards will have to fall very quickly to the same price their old counterparts are now to be feasible. The reaction in forums is obvious too,. I remember the last generation, people were angry about the prices too, but they tolerated it, because they were so much faster. This is not the case this time. Period!
People are much more pissed than last time.
 
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31. Re: Morning Tech Bits Sep 20, 2018, 00:04 Mordecai Walfish
 
so far my schedule to upgrade hardware is whenever Cyberpunk 2077 releases. I'd pay for whatever a rig costs to play that in 4k @ 60fps maxxed. seems crazy to think there wont be at least some kind of vr element to it given the setting, so that may be a good time to get a next-gen (and hopefully cheaper) vive/rift too.  
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30. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 22:28 CJ_Parker
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 18:28:
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.
The average gain from a moderately overclocked 1080 Ti to an 2080 Ti is 14% in 1080p and 23% in 1440p. That will be even lower when you overclock your 1080 Ti even more.
It looks better in 4K, which is 37%, but still laughable when compared to the last generation gain, which was 58, 66 and 75% respectively, from 980 Ti to 1080 Ti.

Come on... let's use our brains a little. They went from 28nm Maxwell to 16nm Pascal because TSMC could not hack a high powered 20nm process.

The huge leap back then was an exception. Everyone knows that and it was NEVER to be expected that Pascal to Turing would even be in the same ballpark because the 12nm TSMC process is actually just an improved 16nm node (16nm+).

The performance increase in an apple to apple comparison is pretty impressive, i.e. GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 and GTX 1080Ti to RTX 2080Ti. Please stop the retarded "but if I overclock the 1080Ti" stupidity because you can overclock the RTX as well. Let's stick to apple vs. apple comparisons.

Depending on the game we are looking at substantial gains (up to 60%+) in 1440p/2160p. The average in apple to apple comparisons is about 35% to 45%. That's pretty fucking good for such a small shrink from 16nm to 12nm.
You'd have to be very uninformed to expect the same performance leaps we've seen last gen. These are very decent results we are seeing here.

It's very simple though: If you already own a GTX 1080 or 1080Ti then the only upgrade that makes any sense is a straight one to the successor. Upgrading from 1080Ti to 2080 makes no sense.

It is up to anyone to decide whether they want to pay the new gen's premium. As a 1080Ti owner I won't. Only the 2080Ti would make sense for me but fuck 1200 for a video card. Could I afford it? Yeah. Do I want to? Fuck no. Gotta have some limits and respect for da moolah. It don't grow on trees.
 
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29. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 21:59 DangerDog
 
I don't need a space heater, I'll wait for a die shrink.  
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28. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 19:54 Beamer
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 19:34:
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:40:

The 2080 is the same price, more or less, than the 1080ti, is more futureproof, and does a bit better. If you're buying now, buying the 1080ti makes no sense.

As for you, do you routinely buy a new graphics card every year? You have the most powerful of the last generation. How many people actually buy a new card every gen? Did you also have a 980ti? Most people wait at least 2, if not 3, if not 4 or even 5 generations to upgrade. Unless you're demanding 4k or VR, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

Past 10 yr roadmap for me has been 7600gt > 8800gt > SLI 8800gt (got 2nd for free) > GTX480 > 980TI (current).

No regrets and still no reason to upgrade, personally. Maybe if I had a VR kit I would feel a bit more compelled. > 2x performance boost at a decent price is really all I bite for, and all my cards have been purchased new for under $400. Upgrading every year seems crazy to me.

If I recall, and I don't, my full list is (and this is more to see if I remember than me thinking anyone cares):

S3 Virge -> Canopus Pure 3D II -> GeForce 3 -> ATI 9800 Pro (got for free) -> ATI x850xtpe -> Sparkle GTX480 -> Gigabyte 970 XTREME Gaming

I do all my gaming in 1080, either on my 16:10 monitor or my HDTV, so I won't upgrade for a while. I'll move to a 4K TV in 2 years, and would expect this rig to last just fine till then. The CPU, which I skimped on, is still "tier 1" on Tom's Guide's Hierarchy. Figure in 2020 we'll get some 10nm processors that make the upgrade worth it. Till then, stuff still runs really well in 1080p.
 
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27. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 19:34 Mordecai Walfish
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:40:

The 2080 is the same price, more or less, than the 1080ti, is more futureproof, and does a bit better. If you're buying now, buying the 1080ti makes no sense.

As for you, do you routinely buy a new graphics card every year? You have the most powerful of the last generation. How many people actually buy a new card every gen? Did you also have a 980ti? Most people wait at least 2, if not 3, if not 4 or even 5 generations to upgrade. Unless you're demanding 4k or VR, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

Past 10 yr roadmap for me has been 7600gt > 8800gt > SLI 8800gt (got 2nd for free) > GTX480 > 980TI (current).

No regrets and still no reason to upgrade, personally. Maybe if I had a VR kit I would feel a bit more compelled. > 2x performance boost at a decent price is really all I bite for, and all my cards have been purchased new for under $400. Upgrading every year seems crazy to me.
 
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26. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 18:31 Luke
 
And the addiction for the "newest" must have goes bannanas ...what a joke  
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25. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 18:28 Muscular Beaver
 
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.
The average gain from a moderately overclocked 1080 Ti to an 2080 Ti is 14% in 1080p and 23% in 1440p. That will be even lower when you overclock your 1080 Ti even more.
It looks better in 4K, which is 37%, but still laughable when compared to the last generation gain, which was 58, 66 and 75% respectively, from 980 Ti to 1080 Ti.
Back then people tolerated the massive price change, because they were simply much faster than the previous generation. But here the prices should actually be much lower than the release prices of the last gen, because the performance doesnt justify it one bit.

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24. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 17:22 Leper
 
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.

They're expensive but then again PC gaming has never been cheap. I forked over near $3000 in inflation adjusted dollars for a pre-built PC back in 2001. You could build a monster today that easily included a 2080 TI for the same cash. That being said, I'd like to see more competition from AMD, Intel or whoever to knock down the card prices a couple hundred bucks. It's still going to be expensive at the top-end though.

If you've got the money I say go for it and I may also in the next year or so.
 
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23. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 17:20 HorrorScope
 
Gib007 wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 17:09:
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.

If all games had that bump, sure.
 
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22. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 17:09 Gib007
 
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 15:54:
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.

The price increase is lunacy, I cannot disagree. However, I have a 1080 at present and looking at the 2080Ti on Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4K, it goes from like 33 FPS to 59 FPS. That's not a joke of a gain. It literally makes for smooth gameplay at 4K, up from somewhat choppy. Overclock the 2080Ti and you probably reach 66 FPS or so. Literally 100% gain.
 
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21. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 16:26 wtf_man
 
Wallshadows wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 12:53:
DLSS implementation will ultimately decide whether or not these cards are worth the price of admission in regards to performance and ray tracing is still too much of a pipe dream to really get excited about.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Performance Unveiled, DLSS AI-Powered Anti-Aliasing Spikes FPS At High IQ
...Flip on DLSS in a compatible game engine

Since DLSS also has to be supported by a developer, I'm not convinced it's worth the "price of admission" either.
 
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20. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 16:15 Frode
 
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 12:06:
Might be worth it for VR (Rift or Vive) depending on the game you're using it with.

Then again, who the fuck has $1200 to spare on a graphics card?
A lot of people, to be fair. Most adults in the "western world" with a decent job would be able to cough that up if they're into PC gaming. Some without thinking about it, some by prioritizing it. The question is, how many will feel it's actually worth it?

I'm still on a 980 Ti, and I'm considering it. I can't imagine why anyone with a 1080 Ti would, though, unless ray tracing games becomes all the rage in 2019.
 
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19. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 15:54 Muscular Beaver
 
As a 1070 owner I will tell you that I will buy a 1080 Ti.
What a joke of a new generation. Laughable performance gain and the price increase is just lunacy.
 
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18. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 15:33 CJ_Parker
 
As a 1080Ti owner I'm gonna take a solid pass on this gen. The only upgrade path that makes any sense here is a straight upgrade, i.e. GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 or GTX 1080Ti to RTX 2080Ti.
I ain't payin' north of one grand for a graphics card. Fuck that concept.

An upgrade from a GTX 1080Ti to a RTX 2080 makes no sense at all. You get the same performance, 3GB VRAM less and the only thing you gain, i.e. RT and DLSS, does not seem to be worth it yet.

It'll take quite a few more gigarays before that stuff really takes off. Besides, the gains in image quality are fairly minuscule and nothing you would really notice in the heat of the action anyway.

The BF V demo with the RT reflections was pretty impressive but it will be quite a while (RTX 4080 rather than 3080) before we will see playable fps at resolutions above 1080p.

So, gonna wait and see what nVidia will do on 7nm next year. Whatever it will be, I'm sure it'll be a much more worthwhile upgrade for GTX 10 owners. TSMC 7nm should give us a nice leap forward hopefully.
 
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17. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 15:30 HorrorScope
 
The 10x0 series was a landmark in performance.

It has been 2 1/2 years for this next gen to release, so we aren't yearly here at all.

This is a standard version upgrade bump. ~20%

It will be interesting what the 2070 looks like performance and price.

I will most likely upgrade to it if reasonable, my old 1070 goes into another system replacing a 760. May look at at 1070ti or 1080 though, depending on cost.

This will all be about price/performance.
 
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16. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 14:02 Gib007
 
I saw the prices on the 2080's and 2080Ti's and promised I would not pay that. Then I bought a 4K HDR TV and saw these benchmarks and I'm seeing 1,100 for a 2080Ti as reasonable... Death trap!!  
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15. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 13:30 BIGtrouble77
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 13:13:
Cram wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 13:09:
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 12:27:
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:40:
Darks wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:26:
For the price of this card and the small amount of increased fps compared to my 1080 Ti FTW3. No thanks, Ill stick with my card for the next few years until these cards get much better, and faster. The current price of $1200 is beyond what these cards are worth.

The 2080 is the same price, more or less, than the 1080ti, is more futureproof, and does a bit better. If you're buying now, buying the 1080ti makes no sense.

As for you, do you routinely buy a new graphics card every year? You have the most powerful of the last generation. How many people actually buy a new card every gen? Did you also have a 980ti? Most people wait at least 2, if not 3, if not 4 or even 5 generations to upgrade. Unless you're demanding 4k or VR, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

Sorry, but I disagree. I just bought a MSI 1080 ti new for under $400. With those prices it is asinine to purchase the 20xx cards.

Indeed, I'm seeing new 1080ti's upwards of $150-200+ (CAD) cheaper then entry level board partner 2080s (example: non strix Asus 2080). That's just browsing for a couple minutes comparing, there are likely even better deals with a little research.

I'm not looking to buy, so not really price shopping, but the cheapest 1080ti on Newegg is $675. The cheapest 2080 is $750.
I've been holding off buying a card to see how these turned out. I just put in an order for the EVGA 1080TI SC Black Edition. Even if the 2080 is a $100 more, I don't think it's worth it especially if it's going to be a pos Zotech card. I think a 12gb EVGA card with good samsung memory is a better bet at this point.
 
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14. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 13:13 Beamer
 
Cram wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 13:09:
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 12:27:
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:40:
Darks wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:26:
For the price of this card and the small amount of increased fps compared to my 1080 Ti FTW3. No thanks, Ill stick with my card for the next few years until these cards get much better, and faster. The current price of $1200 is beyond what these cards are worth.

The 2080 is the same price, more or less, than the 1080ti, is more futureproof, and does a bit better. If you're buying now, buying the 1080ti makes no sense.

As for you, do you routinely buy a new graphics card every year? You have the most powerful of the last generation. How many people actually buy a new card every gen? Did you also have a 980ti? Most people wait at least 2, if not 3, if not 4 or even 5 generations to upgrade. Unless you're demanding 4k or VR, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

Sorry, but I disagree. I just bought a MSI 1080 ti new for under $400. With those prices it is asinine to purchase the 20xx cards.

Indeed, I'm seeing new 1080ti's upwards of $150-200+ (CAD) cheaper then entry level board partner 2080s (example: non strix Asus 2080). That's just browsing for a couple minutes comparing, there are likely even better deals with a little research.

I'm not looking to buy, so not really price shopping, but the cheapest 1080ti on Newegg is $675. The cheapest 2080 is $750.
 
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13. Re: GeForce RTX 2080 Reviews Sep 19, 2018, 13:09 Cram
 
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 12:27:
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:40:
Darks wrote on Sep 19, 2018, 10:26:
For the price of this card and the small amount of increased fps compared to my 1080 Ti FTW3. No thanks, Ill stick with my card for the next few years until these cards get much better, and faster. The current price of $1200 is beyond what these cards are worth.

The 2080 is the same price, more or less, than the 1080ti, is more futureproof, and does a bit better. If you're buying now, buying the 1080ti makes no sense.

As for you, do you routinely buy a new graphics card every year? You have the most powerful of the last generation. How many people actually buy a new card every gen? Did you also have a 980ti? Most people wait at least 2, if not 3, if not 4 or even 5 generations to upgrade. Unless you're demanding 4k or VR, 3 seems to be the sweet spot.

Sorry, but I disagree. I just bought a MSI 1080 ti new for under $400. With those prices it is asinine to purchase the 20xx cards.

Indeed, I'm seeing new 1080ti's upwards of $150-200+ (CAD) cheaper then entry level board partner 2080s (example: non strix Asus 2080). That's just browsing for a couple minutes comparing, there are likely even better deals with a little research.
 
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