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Democracy 4 Announced

It turns out reports of the end of democracy were exaggerated, as Cliffski's Blog announces Positech is at work on Democracy 4, a new installment in their politics simulation. This will add some harsh realities of the day, including corruption and limits to press freedom, and a release is expected at some point next year. Here's word:

Development has started on Democracy 4, the latest iteration of the political strategy game by Positech Games. Democracy 3 was released in 2013 and…quite a lot has happened in global politics since then, which we hope to reflect in the new version. We are still very early in the development of the game, so are not ready to show anything yet, but here are the answers to some expected questions:

Lead programmer and Lead Designer on Democracy 4 will be Jeff Sheen from Stargazy Studios, who also designed Democracy 3:Africa and worked on the Unicode port of Democracy 3 recently to allow support for Russian & Chinese translations. Cliff will help with design & testing and will be producer.

Democracy 4 will incorporate the extra features introduced in Democracy 3 Africa, which simulated corruption, limits to press freedom and other political phenomena from the extremes which are starting to become more common in western politics since the release of Democracy 3.

The game will be completely updated to reflect modern issues, so no more worrying about the ‘V’ chip and other long forgotten issues, and more worrying about fake-news, social media, and other social phenomena driving politics in 2018 onwards.

The release date is ‘some time in 2019’ and we expect to offer an early-access / playable alpha version to players before the games final release. Target platforms are PC, OSX and Linux.

The plan is to roll content from the existing 4 expansion packs (Extremism, Social Engineering, Clones & Drones and Electioneering) into Democracy 4 where appropriate and relevant to provide a single version of the game.

More details coming over the next few months :D

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7. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 15, 2018, 14:34 Silent Bob
 
yonder wrote on Sep 14, 2018, 20:53:
It always entertains me when people don't realize that a given game isn't trying to be what they want it to be, so their complaints aren't valid.

It's like people complaining that the original Dungeons game from 2011 was a bad Dungeon Keeper game. Well... that might be so, but it wasn't TRYING to be a Dungeon Keeper game... so the criticism isn't relevant.

It always entertains me when people who have never played the game make sweeping generalizations and are able to conclude which complaints are valid or not.
 
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6. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 15, 2018, 14:23 Silent Bob
 
It doesn't need to be ultra realistic but it does need to be fun and Democracy 3 wasn't. It was just frustrating. A simulation should allow you to use different strategies to win. Instead, after everything you try fails, you realize that there's one narrow path to success and you have to guess what the developer's intentions were.  
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5. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 14, 2018, 20:53 yonder
 
It always entertains me when people don't realize that a given game isn't trying to be what they want it to be, so their complaints aren't valid.

It's like people complaining that the original Dungeons game from 2011 was a bad Dungeon Keeper game. Well... that might be so, but it wasn't TRYING to be a Dungeon Keeper game... so the criticism isn't relevant.
 
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4. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 14, 2018, 18:24 jdreyer
 
Reality <> a fun game.

Is it fun? If so, then having "realism" becomes much less important.
 
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3. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 14, 2018, 15:19 Silent Bob
 
Red886 wrote on Sep 14, 2018, 14:42:
the simulation aspect of this series of games is completely out of whack with reality

and despite being the title, you start of your games with no political support despite winning the said elections. Thus making the game ridiculously hard to win in a logical way

and everyone wants to assassinate you

Dev def needs to stretch the timeline to decades instead of such short intervals. For now, you can solve the HIV epidemic in Africa within 5 years, but you won't get reelected....

It needs to be rewritten so it bears some resemblance to how running a government / polling / getting elected actually works.

To be fair, I don't think any political simulation game has gotten it completely right yet although some older games like Shadow President were a lot of fun anyway.
 
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2. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 14, 2018, 14:42 Red886
 
the simulation aspect of this series of games is completely out of whack with reality

and despite being the title, you start of your games with no political support despite winning the said elections. Thus making the game ridiculously hard to win in a logical way

and everyone wants to assassinate you

Dev def needs to stretch the timeline to decades instead of such short intervals. For now, you can solve the HIV epidemic in Africa within 5 years, but you won't get reelected....
 
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1. Re: Democracy 4 Announced Sep 14, 2018, 12:19 Armengar
 
democracy 3 was a reasonable game but you needed to mod out the peculiarities such as brain drain (when you had overwhelming tech advantage ), water shortage ( with perfect eco) etc.ill wait until a sale.  
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