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IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up

IGN announces having "parted ways" with the writer of their Dead Cells review, which they removed from their site amid charges of plagiarism. Their explanation acknowledges the shenanigans, and apologizes to Boomstick Gaming for copying their content. Here's the statement, even though it was posted as an image, which will coincidentally thwart search engines:

We've reviewed the allegations against one of our writers regarding our review of Dead Cells. After taking the time to investigate, we've determined that there were substantial similarities between a review posted weeks earlier and our review that could not be justified and warranted being taken down. Though we as a community often share feelings and even certain word choices to describe the games we love by using similar frames of understanding, this particular situation stepped over the line and is not a reflection of our editorial standards. We apologize to our readers, developer Motion Twin, and most especially the YouTuber known under Boomstick Gaming for failing to uphold those standards.

We take our review process seriously. In most cases, reviewers are expected to play a game's single-player or story campaign at least once, as well as spend additional time capturing gameplay to supply content to the video component of our reviews. Though our Dead Cells reviewer played the game and came away with glowing opinions of it -- as did many of our staff members -- the review itself was simply not acceptable. We've parted ways with the writer involved with the review, and will be re-reviewing Dead Cells this week. We will work tirelessly to ensure that, regardless of whether you agree with our reviews, you can have faith that every word is nothing less than genuine opinions of our critics. Nothing is more important to us than your trust.

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23. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 9, 2018, 01:52 ForgedReality
 
jdreyer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 12:38:
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 10:35:
Post your apology as a jpeg to hide it on the internet. Smooth move ign, very smooth.

Also boo on them for making Blue type it all out.

Oh come on, can you blame them? They didn't want anybody plagiarizing their apology.

Also, I bet he just ran the image through a text recognition site.

Here's the image so all you can share it and plagiarize it amongst your friends.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2018/08/slack-imgs.jpg
 
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22. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 9, 2018, 01:32 jdreyer
 
Creston wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 23:40:
Riahderymnmaddog wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:26:
Creston wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:04:
Whaddayaknow, IGN did the right thing. Holy shit. What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

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Man, put a wizard hat on that cat and it could pass for Khajiit in TES.
 
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21. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 23:40 Creston
 
Riahderymnmaddog wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:26:
Creston wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:04:
Whaddayaknow, IGN did the right thing. Holy shit. What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoctW8jgqq/?taken-by=domeas

 
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20. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 22:06 Beamer
 
Kxmode wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 19:08:
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 16:47:
In fairness, I don't think that's ever done outside of attorneys being involved. For all we know, they are discussing this, but nothing is agreed to because, again, these things almost always involve attorneys.

There are lots and lots of famous plagiarism cases. Most, of course, involve politicians who get no blowback...

You're likely right. Pecuniary compensation typically isn't made public because of closed-door procedures.

Life would be so much easier, but if they go without a lawyer and he goes to one, it could drag out.
 
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19. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 19:08 Kxmode
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 16:47:
In fairness, I don't think that's ever done outside of attorneys being involved. For all we know, they are discussing this, but nothing is agreed to because, again, these things almost always involve attorneys.

There are lots and lots of famous plagiarism cases. Most, of course, involve politicians who get no blowback...

You're likely right. Pecuniary compensation typically isn't made public because of closed-door procedures.
 
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18. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 16:47 Beamer
 
Kxmode wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 16:17:
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 13:50:
The guy was fired. How much more serious do you want?

For IGN to pay Boomstick Gaming an estimated amount, they gained from a plagiarized review on their site. There are ways to track this and come up with a ballpark estimate. It may not be a lot, but the point is for many, reviewing games is their primary source of income. So it behooves IGN to pay up.

In fairness, I don't think that's ever done outside of attorneys being involved. For all we know, they are discussing this, but nothing is agreed to because, again, these things almost always involve attorneys.

There are lots and lots of famous plagiarism cases. Most, of course, involve politicians who get no blowback...
 
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17. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 16:17 Kxmode
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 13:50:
The guy was fired. How much more serious do you want?

For IGN to pay Boomstick Gaming an estimated amount, they gained from a plagiarized review on their site. There are ways to track this and come up with a ballpark estimate. It may not be a lot, but the point is for many, reviewing games is their primary source of income. So it behooves IGN to pay up.
 
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16. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 16:06 RedEye9
 
Jivaro wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:58:
If the Twitter feed is to be believed, IGN is also working out something with Boomstick along the lines of $$$ reimbursement through his Patreon. (or something similar) They fired the dude and they are going to toss some dinero to Boomstick?

Other than hiring Boomstick to take the other guys job, I am not sure what more IGN could really be expected to do in the situation. They should definitely look into adding some way that that when an editor writes something for his/her own section that another pair of eyes goes over it before publication. I don't think it would have helped in this particular situation unless those eyes happened to see Boomstick's video...but it seems like a weird thing to not be doing if as a company they take their reviews as seriously as they say.

I prefer the other guys voice. Can they hire boomstick to write it and have the other guy do the voiceover.
 
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15. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 15:58 Jivaro
 
If the Twitter feed is to be believed, IGN is also working out something with Boomstick along the lines of $$$ reimbursement through his Patreon. (or something similar) They fired the dude and they are going to toss some dinero to Boomstick?

Other than hiring Boomstick to take the other guys job, I am not sure what more IGN could really be expected to do in the situation. They should definitely look into adding some way that that when an editor writes something for his/her own section that another pair of eyes goes over it before publication. I don't think it would have helped in this particular situation unless those eyes happened to see Boomstick's video...but it seems like a weird thing to not be doing if as a company they take their reviews as seriously as they say.

 
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14. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 15:26 Riahderymnmaddog
 
Creston wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 15:04:
Whaddayaknow, IGN did the right thing. Holy shit. What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoctW8jgqq/?taken-by=domeas
 
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13. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 15:04 Creston
 
Whaddayaknow, IGN did the right thing. Holy shit. What's next? Cats and dogs living together?  
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12. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 14:57 Beamer
 
Drazula wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 14:38:
Apparently this is not the first time he has plagiarized.

Kotaku.com - Update 2 - NintendoLife review of Fifa 18

Those are dissimilar enough that they would probably never have been noticed. Those are almost excusable, at least the two passages called out. Especially if they're the only similar parts. Even an algorithm, like what colleges use, wouldn't be likely to catch that (at least when I went - if I recall, rumors were they looked for 5 similar words in a row.)

But, given what happened earlier this week, and how word for word the Dead Cells one became, yeah, this is an obvious pattern.
 
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11. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 14:38 Drazula
 
Apparently this is not the first time he has plagiarized.

Kotaku.com - Update 2 - NintendoLife review of Fifa 18
 
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10. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 13:58 loomy
 
plagiarism is really easy to detect with so many eyes on the internet, so this is really not a big deal. it'll happen again and they'll be promptly fired again  
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9. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 13:50 Beamer
 
Kxmode wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 13:34:
even certain word choices to describe the games we love by using similar frames of understanding

Just stop!!! "Certain word choices" and "similar frames of understanding" doesn't justify or validate the wholesale ripping of someone else's work.

We take our review process seriously.

Well, that's a lie.

I mean, if you read the start, it does come across as just obvious, generic word choices. As they then state, it proceeded to then cross the line. Being similar is ok. What Filip did was beyond similar and crossed the line. Not sure why you're taking offense when they say what you said.

Also, not sure how this shows they don't take the review process seriously. The guy was fired. How much more serious do you want? What measures could they implement to prevent this in the future? If you were the GM of IGN, what would you, personally, do?
 
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8. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 13:34 Kxmode
 
even certain word choices to describe the games we love by using similar frames of understanding

Just stop!!! "Certain word choices" and "similar frames of understanding" doesn't justify or validate the wholesale ripping of someone else's work.

We take our review process seriously.

Well, that's a lie.
 
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7. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 12:45 theglaze
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 10:44:
Guy deserved to be fired, but yes, odd that it's a JPG (sure it was put in that form for Twitter or maybe Instagram, but why their site), and odd there's no link on the main page.

Because they are lazy bums! It's human nature to hire people like yourself, and clearly this guy they fired is more like them then they care to admit.

Here's the tweet.
 
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6. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 12:38 jdreyer
 
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 10:35:
Post your apology as a jpeg to hide it on the internet. Smooth move ign, very smooth.

Also boo on them for making Blue type it all out.
 
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5. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 10:50 Cutter
 
I love when corporations tell us nothing is more important than our trust. Lol!
 
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4. Re: IGN Review Plagiarism Follow-up Aug 8, 2018, 10:46 NKD
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 8, 2018, 10:44:
I am also confused at all the people that think the editors should have caught this. How do you catch something like this? Is it their job to watch every single YouTube review of a game, write the transcript, then compare against their stuff? There's no software that does that, and manually it's utterly impossible without hiring thousands of transcribers.

Agreed. Don't think people thought that one through all the way. There's no way for an editor to catch this. It's up to the creator and their own viewers to call it out, and it works like a charm.
 
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