In the meantime, our Star Wars: The Old Republic team is hard at work on some amazing plans for the coming year, with new features and surprises that I think makes it the game’s most exciting year yet. And yes – we hear loud and clear the interest in BioWare doing more Dragon Age and Mass Effect, so rest assured that we have some teams hidden away working on some secret stuff that I think you’ll really like – we’re just not ready to talk about any of it for a little while…
Racial Arrogance: Most whites have a very limited understanding of racism because we have not been trained to think in complex ways about it and because it benefits white dominance not to do so. Yet, we have no compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought complexly about race. Whites generally feel free to dismiss these informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, or seek more information.
Because race is constructed as residing in people of color, whites don’t bear the social burden of race. We move easily through our society without a sense of ourselves as racialized.
These privileges and the white fragility that results prevent us from listening to or comprehending the perspectives of people of color and bridging cross-racial divides. The antidote to white fragility is on-going and life-long, and includes sustained engagement, humility, and education. We can begin by:
- Being willing to tolerate the discomfort associated with an honest appraisal and discussion of our internalized superiority and racial privilege.
- Challenging our own racial reality by acknowledging ourselves as racial beings with a particular and limited perspective on race.
- Attempting to understand the racial realities of people of color through authentic interaction rather than through the media or unequal relationships.
- Taking action to address our own racism, the racism of other whites, and the racism embedded in our institutions—e.g., get educated and act.
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 11, 2018, 11:57:
The person you feign ignorance of knowing is Mark Collett, a right wing racist nut job. I can't believe you 2 ain't M8s. {wink}
I have a personal interest in Mark Collett. He was the subject of a documentary I made in 2002 for Channel 4 called Young, Nazi and Proud.*sigh*
Sepharo wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 19:19:Quinn wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 19:00:
What a waste of fucking time. I asked you to show me where I said anything akin to "They called me a whitey!". You failed miserably. Thanks for that.
I didn't say you said that... I used it as an example of what I would consider racism against whites.
And you were not clear in asking what you wanted an example of, I thought you wanted example of you talking about racism against whites... which is damn near all you've been talking about.
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But I am pretty confused why you're so hostile to that earlier summary.
Is that not the core of your argument?
That "white privilege" discussion is racist against whites?
And does that not, for you, mostly rest on swapping "white" with "black"? Paraphrasing, "If blacks we're treated this way it would be considered racism."
I disagree with the first, and the second doesn't make sense in context... and no that context isn't just because of skin color but because of history, society, implicit and in some cases explicit bias. Your National Review article even acknowledges you can't just simply make the "swap" argument (though it engages in it before later making that acknowledgement).
Beamer wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 19:26:Quinn wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:55:Beamer wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:06:
But why are more blacks committing crime?
Beeeeecause white people make them...?
Or because the majority grows up without a father, in poor neighborhoods, being poor themselves, with black artists inspiring to do crime and have unprotected sex... for starters? Seems like a recipe for exactly the shit the black community is dealing with?
I don't know, Beamer. Why are more blacks committing crimes? Why do hunders of blacks kill eachother every year by putting bullets in eachother's heads? Why do they steal more? Deal more?
What can we white folks do to fix it? Because, by all means, let's fix it!
Ok, so black people are more likely to have these things in their lives, most of which are beyond their control and are from before they're born. White people are less likely to, by a wide margin.
Perhaps there's some kind of advantage, or privilege, in not having to deal with that? And perhaps there are some parts of society so disgusted by these things beyond the control of the individual that they treat the individual differently?
Quinn wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:55:Beamer wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:06:
But why are more blacks committing crime?
Beeeeecause white people make them...?
Or because the majority grows up without a father, in poor neighborhoods, being poor themselves, with black artists inspiring to do crime and have unprotected sex... for starters? Seems like a recipe for exactly the shit the black community is dealing with?
I don't know, Beamer. Why are more blacks committing crimes? Why do hunders of blacks kill eachother every year by putting bullets in eachother's heads? Why do they steal more? Deal more?
What can we white folks do to fix it? Because, by all means, let's fix it!
Quinn wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 19:00:
What a waste of fucking time. I asked you to show me where I said anything akin to "They called me a whitey!". You failed miserably. Thanks for that.
Quinn wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:56:Sepharo wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:53:
You don't remember repeatedly equating discussion of "white privilege" with racism against white people?
Lol, don't lower yourself like that. You know what I mean. Where did I use anecdotal cases of anti-white racism to make a point?
When this dude drinks from a mug with the words "White Tears" on it, we see it for what it is: racism.
He obviously believes white people are racist by default and if that belief alone isn't racist, he also causes division by his tweets and photos of "white tears" mugs.
What if I criticized a movement like BLM with tweets of me drinking from a mug that says "Black Tears"? It's not that hard to figure out, unless you are among those idiots who think individual racism toward whites is impossible.
It's the "Fuck white people, bring in more diversity!" agenda
Change "white" to "black" and understand where I'm coming from. We do not want to go there. It is counter-productive. It's a clear case where "fighting fire with fire" is a bad idea. It's inciting a fucking race war, by making it about race.
The moment you use my skin color as something that is bad, I have a problem with you. That's not white tears. That's a reasonable person saying fuck you to people with racist ideas.
If racist fucks like Jared Taylor somehow get anything to do with a thread on Bluesnews, know that I'll quote your above comment if you open your mouth about it
All this hate toward whiteness in general from much of the leftist media -- not all! -- is a very divisive and dangerous thing. Like Sarah Jeong getting a job at The New York Times, for example. Search "racist tweets by sarah jeong" and it will blow your fucking mind that she gets a platform like NYT. #CancelWhitePeople
And yet there seems to be a fringe minority of critical thinking people who do not feel too guilty or ashamed of their whiteness to also spot anti-white racism, and push against that with all their energy, knowing that racism of any kind is equally terrible.
So any time when I denounce anti-white racism
Same with anti-racism. However, when I walk the street minding my own business, I will have a problem with someone walking up to me and screaming in my face how terrible it is. Especially when that person uses my skin color against me to, ironically, make his point.
White Privilege is just a divisive word with a racist connotation.
If a white person works in a place where 92% of his colleagues are black, I can win money all day betting that this white guy can come up with anecdotal evidence for "Black Privilege".
I'm definitely not going to roll over when people bitch about my skin color to empower the skin color of others.
White Privilege, despite what it perhaps once intended to mean, is now a divisive and toxic thing.
An anti-white vibe as emerged all over the internet.
We are no longer the majority, we're the evil whites. We are the color of our skin.
You say "they shouldn't" while I say that the anti-white trend shouldn't be there in the first place. It is counter-productive. And it is a threat. You cannot help a "demonized" group by demonizing the group that -- allegedly -- demonizes that group.
Or does it enable white-hating motherfuckers to spread their hatred with abandon while being applauded by the confused people and desperate virtue hunters sick of white-guilt?
Sorry, but if my concerns about the anti-white trend makes me a fragile whitey in your eyes... then I indeed don't know how I can make you see reason.
Oh wait, I can. I just need some blacks to make my arguments for me, it seems.
Sepharo wrote on Aug 9, 2018, 18:53:
You don't remember repeatedly equating discussion of "white privilege" with racism against white people?