Out of the Blue

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 28, 2018, 20:13
Quboid
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 28, 2018, 20:13
Jul 28, 2018, 20:13
 Quboid
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 18:06:
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 13:03:
Beamer wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 09:00:
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 21:52:
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?

So is it unacceptable in any context, or is it acceptable in some contexts such as reading Tom Sawyer aloud?

Outside of the small situation of direct quoting, to a crowd expecting to hear it, and it needing the actual word in the quote, it's never acceptable.

If you're on a witness stand being asked what someone said before they shot a man, you may use it. If you're paraphrasing what someone once told you someone else said, to a group explaining to you how not to seem racist, you don't say it.

That sounds right to me. It's not quite as simple as always unacceptable, but it rarely is. Still, I think it's excessive to fire someone who wasn't directing it at anyone (although I haven't followed this story, it becoming public may have forced the board's hand).
It might be excessive, but I'll bet it's the result if any of us were to us that word at work.

Probably, but I don't intend to find out!
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 28, 2018, 18:06
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 28, 2018, 18:06
Jul 28, 2018, 18:06
 
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 13:03:
Beamer wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 09:00:
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 21:52:
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?

So is it unacceptable in any context, or is it acceptable in some contexts such as reading Tom Sawyer aloud?

Outside of the small situation of direct quoting, to a crowd expecting to hear it, and it needing the actual word in the quote, it's never acceptable.

If you're on a witness stand being asked what someone said before they shot a man, you may use it. If you're paraphrasing what someone once told you someone else said, to a group explaining to you how not to seem racist, you don't say it.

That sounds right to me. It's not quite as simple as always unacceptable, but it rarely is. Still, I think it's excessive to fire someone who wasn't directing it at anyone (although I haven't followed this story, it becoming public may have forced the board's hand).
It might be excessive, but I'll bet it's the result if any of us were to us that word at work.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 28, 2018, 13:03
Quboid
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 28, 2018, 13:03
Jul 28, 2018, 13:03
 Quboid
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 09:00:
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 21:52:
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?

So is it unacceptable in any context, or is it acceptable in some contexts such as reading Tom Sawyer aloud?

Outside of the small situation of direct quoting, to a crowd expecting to hear it, and it needing the actual word in the quote, it's never acceptable.

If you're on a witness stand being asked what someone said before they shot a man, you may use it. If you're paraphrasing what someone once told you someone else said, to a group explaining to you how not to seem racist, you don't say it.

That sounds right to me. It's not quite as simple as always unacceptable, but it rarely is. Still, I think it's excessive to fire someone who wasn't directing it at anyone (although I haven't followed this story, it becoming public may have forced the board's hand).
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 28, 2018, 09:00
Beamer
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 28, 2018, 09:00
Jul 28, 2018, 09:00
 Beamer
 
Quboid wrote on Jul 28, 2018, 08:28:
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 21:52:
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?

So is it unacceptable in any context, or is it acceptable in some contexts such as reading Tom Sawyer aloud?

Outside of the small situation of direct quoting, to a crowd expecting to hear it, and it needing the actual word in the quote, it's never acceptable.

If you're on a witness stand being asked what someone said before they shot a man, you may use it. If you're paraphrasing what someone once told you someone else said, to a group explaining to you how not to seem racist, you don't say it.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 28, 2018, 08:28
Quboid
 
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Jul 28, 2018, 08:28
 Quboid
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 21:52:
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?

So is it unacceptable in any context, or is it acceptable in some contexts such as reading Tom Sawyer aloud?
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Jul 27, 2018, 23:43
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RedEye9 wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 16:30:
jdreyer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 16:10:
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Games where she could play and you could watch:
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Evilgrin Yep, I went there.

Phrasing!

LOL.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 21:52
Beamer
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jul 27, 2018, 21:52
Jul 27, 2018, 21:52
 Beamer
 
Some words aren't acceptable in any context. I don't get why that's hard for some. Unless you're reading Tom Sawyer aloud, why use it? What context is it worth using?
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 19:22
Kxmode
 
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Jul 27, 2018, 19:22
 Kxmode
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 16:10:
Great same screen coop games:

The Trine series: puzzle solving platforming. Gorgeous and fun.

BroForce: Side scrolling platforming shooter mayhem with parody 80s and 90s action heroes. So much camp, so much fun, but requires serious twitch skills in later levels.

Gauntlet: Top down fantasy adventuring for up to 4 people. A modern take on the old coin-op arcade game.

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Thanks for that excellent list of games. I'll need to check out a few! Thumbsup
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 19:18
Kxmode
 
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Jul 27, 2018, 19:18
 Kxmode
 
"Aziz, Light!"

How many understand what that means? It's English, but the meaning gets lost if someone doesn't know who Aziz is or the light or where Aziz is with the light. In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Darmok" the crew meets an alien race whose language consisted of memes. When this episode aired, I thought it was genuinely strange because speaking in metaphors was so rare. But today, no way! So many people do it. Most of the time my coworkers use meme language that I haven't a clue what they're talking about. Conversely, I once said, "Aziz, Light!" to a younger coworker and they didn't understand the meaning.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times." - Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 19:07
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Jul 27, 2018, 19:07
 
Blue wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 18:51:
Cutter wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 18:10:
Blue, you have problems with context as well.

No. You have a problem with boundaries.

Guys, I love you both. Just chill.

Would hate to have to send over the orcs to *resolve* the situation.

And if things got really rough, we may even need the fluffy kittens. *shudders*. You really don't want the fluffy kittens....
Kittens!
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 18:51
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Jul 27, 2018, 18:51
 
Cutter wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 18:10:
Blue, you have problems with context as well.

No. You have a problem with boundaries.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 18:10
Cutter
 
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Jul 27, 2018, 18:10
 Cutter
 
Blue, you have problems with context as well.
"I didn't know you had it in you. Sorry, poor choice of words." - David
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 18:00
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Jul 27, 2018, 18:00
 
Red, Rigs, jd - and everyone else, thanks for the co-op suggestions. Ms. Sauron #1, #2 and I will probably try a few of these. Although for co-op, I do have to say that the Switch is really family friendly , accessible and fun, and so is kind of our go-to.

Hey, even the goblins (and my cat) can play and enjoy Mario Kart!
Kittens!
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Jul 27, 2018, 17:02
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Jul 27, 2018, 17:02
 

tRump says he 'did NOT' know of meeting between his son and the Russians.
This just updated.

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Jul 27, 2018, 16:30
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Jul 27, 2018, 16:30
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 16:10:
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Games where she could play and you could watch:
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Evilgrin Yep, I went there.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 16:10
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Jul 27, 2018, 16:10
 
Great same screen coop games:

The Trine series: puzzle solving platforming. Gorgeous and fun.

BroForce: Side scrolling platforming shooter mayhem with parody 80s and 90s action heroes. So much camp, so much fun, but requires serious twitch skills in later levels.

Gauntlet: Top down fantasy adventuring for up to 4 people. A modern take on the old coin-op arcade game.

Rocket League: Soccer with race cars. So awesome.

The Lego games. My wife likes the running around and puzzle solving. Cool thing is that they cover a bunch of different themes: heroes, LotR, pirates, etc. so pick you poison.

Castle crashers: side scrolling fantasy action with cute characters.

Monaco: Top down heist action

Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime: Two people fly a 2D ship and battle aliens inside asteroids. Fun and cute.

Hammerwatch: pixel art Gauntlet action.

Never Alone: cute side scrolling action with an Eskimo and arctic fox

Battleblock Theater: humorous and cut side scroller.

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A few fun competitive games:

Worms series: Hilarity ensues when the grenade you threw bounces back and lands at your feet blasting your worm into the water where you sink to the icy depths.

Towerfall Ascension: 2D archery game. Although this has a coop mode against monsters, it's at its best trying to shoot each other with arrows. Lots of powerups and mods.

Blazerush: Superfun top-down racing with powerups.

GRiD 2: Split screen racing.

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Games where she could play and you could watch:

Abzu: beautiful underwater puzzle and exploration game.

Rime: 3rd person puzzle and exploration game. Delightful and relaxing.

Witness: First person puzzle solving and exploration on a gorgeous island.

Puzzle Quest: Combines match 3 with RPG elements. This kind of game is a great gateway drug into games.

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Some same screen coop games I've heard good things about but not played yet:

Overcooked: restaurant simulator?

Cuphead: Platformer with hand-drawn 1920s animation

Divinity OS 2: Traditional CRPG

Crypt of the Necrodancer: Rhythm top down something. You can use your own music.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 15:35
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Jul 27, 2018, 15:35
 Rigs
 
sauron wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 14:10:
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 11:55:
I should clarify this likely needs to be same-screen, as we have a Macbook air, a Surface Pro, and a powerful desktop that's Steamlinked to the TV.

And a lot of these are great games, but require a bit more understanding of a game, or something of a learning curve. For someone that's never held a controller, it needs to be pretty easy.

Portal 2 is amazing, but probably Gaming 201. Minecraft could be cool, and probably works on the Surface. It takes some learning, but it's a fun way to go. I still think it may be too advanced to start.

My girls and I started out on Torchlight 2. They were just kids at the time but they had an absolute blast. Pretty much no learning curve at all.

Other than that, pretty much any game by Nintendo works great. Super Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart. Or just taking turns playing Zelda:BOTW - so cinematic that it's almost as fun to watch as it is to play.

Well, I guess a game like Hatred or the first Postal are out, eh? I was going to nominate Portal as well. You know, whenever I have like a half an hour to play something, I always convince myself to play a mindless shooter because I think that I don't have the time and brain-storage commitment to learn the controls of a more involved game but sometimes I'll start up something like War In The East (yes, the Matrix wargame) or Elite Dangerous and realize that while there's a few mins commitment, yes, once you get it down, it's just as easy as anything else. That's not to say to put her in DCS: A-10 with a RiFT on for starters. (Though I'd be curious of her reaction to doing a preflight checklist before ever even moving...lol!) I actually had my daughter playing racing sims like GRID and she did pretty well first time out. She was also going for her real license, so she was motivated to learn all she could, especially when it came to driving a manual trans (something I >still< can't do). Basically, what I'm saying is don't underestimate their ability to catch on quick even if they haven't played.

As for that oldest person dying, I've always told myself that if I make it to 2050 (when I'll be 78), I'll be content. I just turned 40, so if I manage to hold out, I have roughly another 40 years left, so I'm half done. I'm kinda jealous of my daughter, though. She was born in 1997 and she plays her cards right, she may just make it to see 2100. I can't imagine what this world will be like then!

=-Rigs-=
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jul 27, 2018, 15:22
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Jul 27, 2018, 15:22
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 11:26:
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a good game that they've played with non-gamers? My GF is curious, but has never really played anything. I bought one of the Harry Potter Lego games on GoG, but put in about 20 minutes on my own to give it a test and it's one of the most dull things I've ever played.

I'm leaning towards A Wolf Among Us, but it might be too gritty, and not sure how she'll like the Quicktimey stuff, even if just making a snap decision with a controller she's unfamiliar with. I'd prefer something two player with puzzles, and maybe the Harry Potter game gets better, but man, it just felt like it lacked the need for both skill and thinking.

Puzzlers like that new Tetris on steam might be a good pick. Also can never go wrong with katamari. If you don't have a console it was on then pcsx2 will do the trick. Maybe a fun and forgiving driving game like a kart racer?

Edit: also maybe sea of thieves. Not single screen but fits the bill very well.
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Jul 27, 2018, 15:13
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sauron wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 14:25:
Oh, just saw the Pachinko article. It's really quite good. Thanks!
4% of Japans GDP, holy mother of god.
Bodolza wrote on Jul 27, 2018, 13:17:
I thought the point of having multiple engines was that you could still keep flying if you lost one of them.
You can.
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Jul 27, 2018, 14:55
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Oh, and just saw that Paladins is now available on Switch for free!
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