Oh, so we get more of the same child-minds running around with no tactical plan, lone-wolfing, chaotically spraying ammo at everything that moves, hacking with aimbots, and shit talking about their K/D ratio like it matters... but all in 4K and 60 fps??? Oooohh... color me unimpressed.

Sepharo wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 16:03:

Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 09:22:

MT Silver wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 09:13:

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 04:33:

Avus wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 01:48:
WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

You're wrong about killing Nazis though. There are no Nazis in this game. The "enemy" is the German Empire, and all references to actual WW2 scenarios have been carefully erased from the game. From what I've seen the actual Allies have retained their nationality though.

Please tell me you're joking and they didn't actually do this...

As with nearly any game like this, single player has you killing Nazis like you're Brad Pitt, multiplayer does away with the Nazis so that no one has to be one. Because, historical accuracy be damned, no one wants to fight as a Nazi.

Yep, even the first BF way back in 2002
https://i.imgur.com/hy0mc4k.jpg

But I always thought it had more to do with selling it in Europe than not wanting to play a Nazi in MP.

Specifically selling in Germany I'd guess. Display of the swastika for entertainment purposes is forbidden. Unless it's involving a statement. And BF5 is a fantasy game, so it would never get the go ahead for this in Germany.

So tone or luminance every pixel
Blue is shared amongst 4 pixels
Red is shared amongst 8 pixels?
What about green? Same as tone?

709 color space doesn't look very large
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._709

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 10:34:
BFV will have a single-player mode? Hmmm, need to google this a little bit...

Yes, but most likely short but gorgeous, like BF1's single player.

Arguably not worth buying the game new/full price if you're only interested in single player, of course.

Danger Dog -> that's really going to suck if all the maps are made for Grand Operations, instead of having any for actual Conquest Large...wouldn't be too much of a surprise though.

Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 09:22:

MT Silver wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 09:13:

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 04:33:

Avus wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 01:48:
WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

You're wrong about killing Nazis though. There are no Nazis in this game. The "enemy" is the German Empire, and all references to actual WW2 scenarios have been carefully erased from the game. From what I've seen the actual Allies have retained their nationality though.

Please tell me you're joking and they didn't actually do this...

As with nearly any game like this, single player has you killing Nazis like you're Brad Pitt, multiplayer does away with the Nazis so that no one has to be one. Because, historical accuracy be damned, no one wants to fight as a Nazi.

Yep, even the first BF way back in 2002
https://i.imgur.com/hy0mc4k.jpg

But I always thought it had more to do with selling it in Europe than not wanting to play a Nazi in MP.

BFV will have a single-player mode? Hmmm, need to google this a little bit...

MT Silver wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 09:13:

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 04:33:

Avus wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 01:48:
WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

You're wrong about killing Nazis though. There are no Nazis in this game. The "enemy" is the German Empire, and all references to actual WW2 scenarios have been carefully erased from the game. From what I've seen the actual Allies have retained their nationality though.

Please tell me you're joking and they didn't actually do this...

As with nearly any game like this, single player has you killing Nazis like you're Brad Pitt, multiplayer does away with the Nazis so that no one has to be one. Because, historical accuracy be damned, no one wants to fight as a Nazi.

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 04:33:

Avus wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 01:48:
WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

You're wrong about killing Nazis though. There are no Nazis in this game. The "enemy" is the German Empire, and all references to actual WW2 scenarios have been carefully erased from the game. From what I've seen the actual Allies have retained their nationality though.

Please tell me you're joking and they didn't actually do this...

YourNick wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 22:27:
Wow, 4:2:0 is even worse, 4 pixels become one color! Does YouTube also downgrade 12bit color to 10 or 8? Sure glad YouTube finally 60fps a few years back.

YCbCr 4:2:0 has it in the name
luminance, chrominance blue, chrominance red

Luminance is 4k
Blue chroma channel is 2k -50% loss of all blue hue detail
Red chroma channel is 1k -75% loss of all red hue detail

Youtube then shifts the color space to bt709, meaning it's not even 100% 8bit since gamma range and all that matter too. ^^ But it's still a better quality video than most you'll see, if you watch at 4k that is. At 720p the red chroma channel is essentially SD quality.

So yeah, youtube is and remains not the place for video quality enthusiasts

Avus wrote on Jul 9, 2018, 01:48:
WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

You're wrong about killing Nazis though. There are no Nazis in this game. The "enemy" is the German Empire, and all references to actual WW2 scenarios have been carefully erased from the game. From what I've seen the actual Allies have retained their nationality though.

WW2 again... killing Nazi again... so boring

I am guessing killing zombies and Nazi are the most politically correct way to make a game about shooting/killing.

Wow, 4:2:0 is even worse, 4 pixels become one color! Does YouTube also downgrade 12bit color to 10 or 8? Sure glad YouTube finally 60fps a few years back.

YourNick wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 21:38:
What's the point in 12bit color if you're gonna do chroma sub sampling anyways?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling#Sampling_systems_and_ratios
4:2:2 makes 2 pixels the same color.

Was kind of a moot point the moment he uploaded it to youtube As it was turned to 4:2:0 ^^

same gameplay, more pixels. Game devs have definitely lost their creativity.

What's the point in 12bit color if you're gonna do chroma sub sampling anyways?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling#Sampling_systems_and_ratios
4:2:2 makes 2 pixels the same color.

CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 15:50:

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 14:26:
Recorded in 12 bit 4K then uploaded to youtube.
/facepalm
*sigh*

Who cares? No amount of lipstick, not even 128K 1024-bit, can hide the fact that this game is a piece of shit from one of the shittiest publishers and devs on the planet. Fuck Battlefield. Fuck games as a service. Fuck MTX. Fuck EA. zero dismissive wanks given

ftfy
get with the program

VaranDragon wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 14:26:
Recorded in 12 bit 4K then uploaded to youtube.

/facepalm

*sigh*

Who cares? No amount of lipstick, not even 128K 1024-bit, can hide the fact that this game is a piece of shit from one of the shittiest publishers and devs on the planet. Fuck Battlefield. Fuck games as a service. Fuck MTX. Fuck EA.

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 12:51:
I see the glow skins are back ^^ (enemy soldiers not affected by shadows) looked very wonky in Bad Company 2.. and looks super wonky here. Still, looks pretty. Just saying, all Battlefield games do this, I just think it looks super weird to see a glowing enemy in a dark room

depends on how the light source hit's the player, I found the ability to see players in shadows rather difficult, probably as it should be.

It was hard to ID friend from foe with the motley crew type atmosphere, the customization was baked in so after awhile you could sort of get a read on an enemy player from short range, could be much worse in the final version when everyone is wearing a different outfit.

Battlefield is now being fought over by people wanting simulation and those wanting it to remain arcade. It'll hit somewhere in the middle satisfying neither crowd fully.

The focus on the maps will be on Global Operations with other modes shoe horned into them, I know this saves dev time and hard drive space but doesn't always make for the best experience possible. Conquest on this map felt like playing conquest on most of the Bad Company 2 maps that were designed for Rush mode, rather confining and difficult to maneuver in ground vehicles.

Yes, bit of a joke showing this video off on youtube but at least it shows that they're not using wonky filters to desaturate the graphics.

Recorded in 12 bit 4K then uploaded to youtube.

/facepalm

*sigh*

eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 8, 2018, 12:51:
I see the glow skins are back ^^ (enemy soldiers not affected by shadows) looked very wonky in Bad Company 2.. and looks super wonky here. Still, looks pretty. Just saying, all Battlefield games do this, I just think it looks super weird to see a glowing enemy in a dark room

Imagine the horror if it was a glowing female. 9:01 for the realizms and historicals.