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Re: Morning Tech Bits
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Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2018, 13:59:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 22, 2018, 13:57:
My guess is the employee filed a complaint of some kind, when that happened the executives punted.

I think this was just the cherry on top. Board wanted to let him go, this gave an excuse.
Exactly, these kinds of relationships never end well for the underling. Something else is at work if the exec "lost."

On the other hand, we're in the #metoo era...
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 22, 2018, 13:59
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 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 22, 2018, 13:57:
My guess is the employee filed a complaint of some kind, when that happened the executives punted.

I think this was just the cherry on top. Board wanted to let him go, this gave an excuse.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 22, 2018, 13:57
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Jun 22, 2018, 13:57
 
My guess is the employee filed a complaint of some kind, when that happened the executives punted.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 22, 2018, 11:10
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Makes me wonder what he _actually_ did to get fired.

Dating at work, including up/down the hierarchy, is mundanely routine - even with official 'policy' being against it just about ~everywhere. Nobody makes anything of it, unless someone causes problems.

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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 19:23
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Jun 21, 2018, 19:23
Jun 21, 2018, 19:23
 
More of the nitty gritty
https://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2018/06/intel_ceo_brian_krzanich_resig.html
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Re: Into the Black
Jun 21, 2018, 18:30
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Cutter wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:58:
Humans can control robots with brainwaves eh? So than the reverse may end up being true as well, neh?

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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 16:53
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Of all the shit he's done this is what got him ousted?

Well, okay, fair enough.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 14:44
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Intel Inside, huh?
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 13:50
Beamer
 
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Jun 21, 2018, 13:50
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 13:42:
There are a lot of different types of CEOs. Guys like my CEO or Costco's Jim Sinegal are servant-leaders, listening to and treating employees well as a path to customer satisfaction, instead of focusing on producing shareholder value. Unfortunately, psychopaths occupy C-level positions at 4x the occurrence of psychopathy in the general population. For those kinds of people, the focus is on wealth and power, and they can be hard to work for.

It often depends on the lifecycle of a company. The companies where employees love CEOs are ones that are still in high growth stages.

Once they become mature companies in mature markets, that slows down. CEOs in these companies tend to either have extremely short lifespans or extremely long. If extremely short, they're desperately trying to extend by making short term decisions for the shareholders, because the board reports to the shareholders. Decisions are made for tomorrow's stock price, not next decades stock price.

If they have a long term CEO, he's probably just really good at making the shareholders feel good.

The further we keep aggregating wealth into the few, the more powerful loud voices outside the company can be. The more powerful those voices, the less the company seems to focus on long term. Powerful shareholders want the most return, not the longest term return. No big deal milking something until it's dry, then moving to the next thing to milk just before it dies.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 13:42
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Jun 21, 2018, 13:42
 
There are a lot of different types of CEOs. Guys like my CEO or Costco's Jim Sinegal are servant-leaders, listening to and treating employees well as a path to customer satisfaction, instead of focusing on producing shareholder value. Unfortunately, psychopaths occupy C-level positions at 4x the occurrence of psychopathy in the general population. For those kinds of people, the focus is on wealth and power, and they can be hard to work for.
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Jun 21, 2018, 13:28
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 12:03:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/jobs/locations.html
That's a lot of floorway walking, I hope the new ceo has a tennis shoe sponsor. {wink}

Heh. That was then, not now. Intel was a smaller company back then. I don't know about the other locations, but I know that Andy would show up at HF and JF yearly.
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Jun 21, 2018, 12:51
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Peter M. Smith wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 12:42:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:04:
What employee speaks highly of a CEO...

Yo.
There are exceptions to every rule statement idea whatever
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:04:
What employee speaks highly of a CEO...

Yo.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 12:03
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Jun 21, 2018, 12:03
 
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/jobs/locations.html
That's a lot of floorway walking, I hope the new ceo has a tennis shoe sponsor. {wink}
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Jun 21, 2018, 11:58
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 Cutter
 
Humans can control robots with brainwaves eh? So than the reverse may end up being true as well, neh?
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 11:56
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:46:
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:04:
What employee speaks highly of a CEO...

In my time at Intel, we spoke highly of Andy Grove. Unlike most CEOs, he would routinely show up at a campus and walk the floor unannounced. He would sit down with you and ask you how you liked working for Intel, what Intel could do better, and how he could help make both your job and Intel better.

While Krzanich may have been a chump, he wasn't the total fucking loser that Barrett was. Had Barrett been at any other company that didn't have as much inertia or financial reserves as Intel, he would have cratered that company.
We got a new CEO at the beginning of the year, and he seems like a good guy. He also walks the floor and asks people who they are and what they do. He holds regular meetings to give updates on where the company is headed and what the challenges are. Holds monthly coffee meetings that anyone can attend to chat.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 11:46
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 11:04:
What employee speaks highly of a CEO...

In my time at Intel, we spoke highly of Andy Grove. Unlike most CEOs, he would routinely show up at a campus and walk the floor unannounced. He would sit down with you and ask you how you liked working for Intel, what Intel could do better, and how he could help make both your job and Intel better.

While Krzanich may have been a chump, he wasn't the total fucking loser that Barrett was. Had Barrett been at any other company that didn't have as much inertia or financial reserves as Intel, he would have cratered that company.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 11:16
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Jun 21, 2018, 11:16
 
You are correct that CEOs aren't a popular bunch in general even with the people who "work for" them. I'd guess very few CEOs are "liked" by a majority of the people in their company. But I'd also guess in most cases the employee opinions are frequently neutral/indifferent. In some cases, including Intel apparently, the CEOs are openly disliked.

You are also right about the performance of the stock during his tenure and it being likely he'll land another juicy job. The amazingly thing is, even if the stock had cratered he'd still be likely to get another juicy job.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 11:04
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 21, 2018, 10:53:
Well, according to my sister who is approaching 20 years at Intel, very few of the employees will miss "BK" as he is referred to in the company. He has been fairly unpopular for quite some time...
What employee speaks highly of a CEO they have never met nor will ever know beyond an occasional press release, company wide e-mail or board approved policy change delivered w/his name on it.
BK, employed by intel for 36 year, will take his millions and land somewhere else making even more. Except this time he'll keep a fleshlight in the desk drawer and use it instead of violated a company policy (if he's smart).
Intel's stock has risen about 120 percent during Krzanich's tenure as CEO.
nuff said
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Jun 21, 2018, 10:53
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Well, according to my sister who is approaching 20 years at Intel, very few of the employees will miss "BK" as he is referred to in the company. He has been fairly unpopular for quite some time...

Edit: Haha, just talked with her on the phone, she said there will be dancing in the aisles at Intel over this. She said he is widely held to be an asshole. The exceptionally amusing part is he's leaving for having a relationship with an Intel employee and he apparently has a "trophy wife". He dumped the wife he had been with for years and had children with, and married an attractive woman much younger than him. Guess he just can't keep it in his pants...

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