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Steam Opening the Gates

A new post on the Steam Blog discusses "Who Gets To Be On The Steam Store" in light of recent questions about Valve's policies regarding games that include adult content and controversial topics. It's a lengthy discussion of the issues involved and the history of their policies. They then announce that their new policy going forward is to allow all content "except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling." Here's their conclusion:
So what does this mean? It means that the Steam Store is going to contain something that you hate, and don't think should exist. Unless you don't have any opinions, that's guaranteed to happen. But you're also going to see something on the Store that you believe should be there, and some other people will hate it and want it not to exist.

It also means that the games we allow onto the Store will not be a reflection of Valve’s values, beyond a simple belief that you all have the right to create & consume the content you choose. The two points above apply to all of us at Valve as well. If you see something on Steam that you think should not exist, it's almost certain that someone at Valve is right there with you.

To be explicit about that - if we allow your game onto the Store, it does not mean we approve or agree with anything you're trying to say with it. If you're a developer of offensive games, this isn't us siding with you against all the people you're offending. There will be people throughout the Steam community who hate your games, and hope you fail to find an audience, and there will be people here at Valve who feel exactly the same way. However, offending someone shouldn't take away your game's voice. We believe you should be able to express yourself like everyone else, and to find others who want to play your game. But that's it.

In the short term, we won't be making significant changes to what's arriving on Steam until we've finished some of the tools we've described in this post. As we've hopefully managed to convey, navigating these issues is messy and complicated. Countries and societies change their laws and cultural norms over time. We'll be working on this for the foreseeable future, both in terms of what products we're allowing, what guidelines we communicate, and the tools we're providing to developers and players.
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46. Re: No Man's Sky NEXT Adds Multiplayer in July Jun 7, 2018, 04:51 CJ_Parker
 
007Bistromath wrote on Jun 7, 2018, 02:19:
CJ_Parker wrote on Jun 6, 2018, 22:29:
Oh yeah? So you are telling me they had 50 aisles full of old games? Really?
You are somebody who doesn't really remember the 90s very well.

In the 90s, one of the main ways to find out about new games you might actually want was to look in a bargain bin somewhere and get a CD that said OVER 500 GAMES!!! on it.

Like 20 of those might be shareware games worth playing.

Then you never got registered versions because your parents were broke. :V

I remember all of that very well.

The original point was something completely different. The guy I was originally responding to said that retail stores with lots of shit games and Steam with lots of shit games on it is the same thing.

That's a bullshit comparison for many reasons but primarily because retail stores have always had limited space, limited stock, they cleaned up on a regular basis and sent leftover stock to those publishers who had a return policy and it was also much easier to identify stuff just by where it was.

Current (up to a few months old) releases in big boxes on display were only about two aisles. Then you had some extra displays, stacks, racks or boxes with discounted games, tons of shovelware, jewel cases (your 500 games collections) and so on.

However, you instinctively knew where to look if you were ready to buy either a full price game or a budget title.
But even if you didn't know but were ready for an impulse buy then you had to maybe sift through, what, two hundred or so games? Make it three hundred or four hundred if you wish, it doesn't matter since it pales in comparison to a digital store like Steam with its 20K+ games (according to SteamSpy).

Steam is totally different. It has all those thousands upon thousands of games while the inventory keeps growing and growing on a daily basis.
Cutter pretty much nailed it. If you want to compare it to retail then Steam is like a huge very unorganized, stuffed, cramped warehouse with a few well organized aisles and displays (the AAA stuff) and the rest is like a garbage dump where the delivery trucks just dumped the "boxes" into a random location but no one ever bothered putting them on shelves or on display.
 
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