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LOL at the detailed breakdown of what this game is or should be.
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thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 20:00:
Beamer wrote on May 26, 2018, 18:18:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.

You said it "panders to sjws," a ridiculous comment as we don't know what the plot is. You also said it was another game that did so, also ridiculous because so few do.

People like you are just overly sensitive and looking to be offended. Does a game have a female? Clearly it's pandering. why, in your day, women knew well enough to leave the vidja game to us men folk. Today, they don't know their place!

I have no problem with female protagonists in video games. I own a bunch of them and enjoy them. I have female characters in some MMOs. Those are fantasy games or alternative history. I'm just tired of games that claim to be an "authentic WW-whatever experience", first COD WW2 and now this game, that feel an absolute need to rewrite history to be politically correct based on today's standards and not the standards of the period they are set in.

Personally, I don't understand what drives this agenda on almost every level in this industry now. But hey, you know, string me up for having a viewpoint that differs from yours. Whatever. This comment board is full of people who love to play holier-than-thou and crucify others who have differing opinions even resorting to pretty immature personal attacks. So be it. I'm done wasting my time.

Again, you're looking to be offended. They said they put fun over authentic, and in your attempt to be angry at something, you heard "authentic."

Sorry, you can't cry "personal attacks!" when you say "I won't buy the game because the devs pander to SJWs!" What makes you think personal attacks are unfair when you say people who like this are "SJWs" and people who make this are "pandering?"

You're making attacks, based on incorrect information and unfair assumptions. You're trying to be offended. And, when called out, you try to be a victim. "Agenda." Bullshit, you just don't like being pandered to, and can't fathom why any industry would try to appeal beyond the straight white male. You've always known it to be the way it is, and any change means you're a victim!
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May 27, 2018, 10:59
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May 27, 2018, 10:59
 
Bludd wrote on May 27, 2018, 07:37:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 19:40:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:28:
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:13:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:56:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.

@Bludd, good points, you should post more often.

@Cake, a shame you'll miss out. What will you play instead? Something like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam?
No, I told ya. He'll be playing Chess, probably game 6 of Bobby Fisher vs. Boris Spassky world championship match in 1972. I hope he'll play white because he'll lose otherwise.

@jdreyer, thank you for the compliment

Because personal attacks make you look smart, am I right? But you know, I don't need to stoop to your level mate and I won't because I'm a better person than that. I think instead of playing "chess" and spending money on EA's latest spew I'll play classics like Bad Company 2, one of the last good games EA made, or indie titles from studios that actually try to make a quality product.
We haven't attacked your person, we haven't called you names. We've pointed out that your mantra of historical accuracy is not sustainable and is not a legitimate reason for discounting BFV.

Btw, Bad Company 2 is not historically accurate either.

It's ridiculous that this is even an argument, I don't even understand it. Compared to being able to respawn and hunt down that sniper that just headshot you that you saw in the xray killcam, after spawning in the gunner seat of a biplane and then parachuting on top of them in order to knife them in the ass - having a pair of knockers on your character isn't even on the scale of what a fan concerned with 'realism' should have their knickers in a twist over.

And if it gets more girls to play than that is all the better. I wager it will draw more in than it will lose to any kind of anti SJW boycott, which in the unlikely event that it happens to an appreciable extent it would definitely make the server population far more tolerable given the other inane bullshit that seems to correlate with what is in the minds and comes out unbidden from such fanatic's keyboards.

And if anyone takes this as a slight on their character or beliefs than that is exactly as I intend to be understood.
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May 27, 2018, 09:51
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Women fought and died in WWII on all three sides.

The Soviets had a bunch of them. Like, a lot of them. Thousands. With guns and shooting and everything.

The British had hundreds of them. A few of those ones were even brown. They used bunches of mere females to coordinate, supply, and (Oh wait for it!) lead resistance cells in France.

Some times a game isn't going to be made up of people just like you.

A mask is not a political statement. It's an IQ test.
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May 27, 2018, 07:37
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May 27, 2018, 07:37
 
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 19:40:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:28:
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:13:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:56:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.

@Bludd, good points, you should post more often.

@Cake, a shame you'll miss out. What will you play instead? Something like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam?
No, I told ya. He'll be playing Chess, probably game 6 of Bobby Fisher vs. Boris Spassky world championship match in 1972. I hope he'll play white because he'll lose otherwise.

@jdreyer, thank you for the compliment

Because personal attacks make you look smart, am I right? But you know, I don't need to stoop to your level mate and I won't because I'm a better person than that. I think instead of playing "chess" and spending money on EA's latest spew I'll play classics like Bad Company 2, one of the last good games EA made, or indie titles from studios that actually try to make a quality product.
We haven't attacked your person, we haven't called you names. We've pointed out that your mantra of historical accuracy is not sustainable and is not a legitimate reason for discounting BFV.

Btw, Bad Company 2 is not historically accurate either.
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May 26, 2018, 20:00
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May 26, 2018, 20:00
 
Beamer wrote on May 26, 2018, 18:18:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.

You said it "panders to sjws," a ridiculous comment as we don't know what the plot is. You also said it was another game that did so, also ridiculous because so few do.

People like you are just overly sensitive and looking to be offended. Does a game have a female? Clearly it's pandering. why, in your day, women knew well enough to leave the vidja game to us men folk. Today, they don't know their place!

I have no problem with female protagonists in video games. I own a bunch of them and enjoy them. I have female characters in some MMOs. Those are fantasy games or alternative history. I'm just tired of games that claim to be an "authentic WW-whatever experience", first COD WW2 and now this game, that feel an absolute need to rewrite history to be politically correct based on today's standards and not the standards of the period they are set in.

Personally, I don't understand what drives this agenda on almost every level in this industry now. But hey, you know, string me up for having a viewpoint that differs from yours. Whatever. This comment board is full of people who love to play holier-than-thou and crucify others who have differing opinions even resorting to pretty immature personal attacks. So be it. I'm done wasting my time.

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May 26, 2018, 19:40
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May 26, 2018, 19:40
 
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:28:
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:13:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:56:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.

@Bludd, good points, you should post more often.

@Cake, a shame you'll miss out. What will you play instead? Something like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam?
No, I told ya. He'll be playing Chess, probably game 6 of Bobby Fisher vs. Boris Spassky world championship match in 1972. I hope he'll play white because he'll lose otherwise.

@jdreyer, thank you for the compliment

Because personal attacks make you look smart, am I right? But you know, I don't need to stoop to your level mate and I won't because I'm a better person than that. I think instead of playing "chess" and spending money on EA's latest spew I'll play classics like Bad Company 2, one of the last good games EA made, or indie titles from studios that actually try to make a quality product.
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May 26, 2018, 19:31
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May 26, 2018, 19:31
 
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 13:45:
DangerDog wrote on May 26, 2018, 13:12:
Rhett wrote on May 26, 2018, 08:41:
If it was claiming to be 100% historically accurate, I would care... but it's not. Just looking at the trailer's thumbnail you can tell it's not taking itself seriously.

There are hardcore realism games like Squad, Post Scriptum and ARMA, and then there's Battlefield and Call of Duty, which pander to sales. Appreciation for historically accurate games has gone down the drain, because there's so little to work with (from our perspective at least - how many times do we have to take back France from the Nazis?!).

It's not a political statement, it's a game about shooting other people and having fun. With WW2 weapons. There are many things to be concerned about in today's world and this game is not one of them, lol.

DICE isn't using the term "Historically accurate" as far as I know, but they do keep saying "Authentic WWII experience" they just need to replace "Authentic" with "Fantastical".

It wouldn't do much to pleasing those wanting something "authentic" but at least it would be more true to what the game is. Complete fantasy.
But this rabbit hole is bottomless. You can say that even games striving for realism and accuracy are fantasies because they depict events that haven't happened; even Squad, for instance, has reviving and respawning and the scenarios you play aren't historical reenactments. ARMA 3 is about a made-up future conflict.

Even documentaries or history books are curated because 1) there is never absolute information certainty about even events that are in the information age and 2) day-to-day minutiae even of the most thrilling historical events are bound to be boring.

It's all about storytelling. An authentic experience can be historically inaccurate and not suffer for it at all.

No need to go down the rabbit hole when what people are complaining about is right on the surface. I'm pretty sure we have enough historical information about WWII to make something "authentic". People are already digging up information about how there were amputee spies and soldiers during WWII, no mechanical armed snipers though but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there were.

A fictional WWII setting is fine, the disconnect is when you try to overlap that with real historical events and then try to claim that you're being authentic to that event. To those that don't find the day-to-day minutia of historical events boring it reeks of historical revisionism, and thus their panties are in a wad over it.

Maybe DICE can find the right balance between inclusivity and WWII authenticity without it looking like a scene from Suicide Squad.
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May 26, 2018, 18:18
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thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.

You said it "panders to sjws," a ridiculous comment as we don't know what the plot is. You also said it was another game that did so, also ridiculous because so few do.

People like you are just overly sensitive and looking to be offended. Does a game have a female? Clearly it's pandering. why, in your day, women knew well enough to leave the vidja game to us men folk. Today, they don't know their place!
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May 26, 2018, 17:28
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May 26, 2018, 17:28
 
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2018, 17:13:
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:56:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.

@Bludd, good points, you should post more often.

@Cake, a shame you'll miss out. What will you play instead? Something like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam?
No, I told ya. He'll be playing Chess, probably game 6 of Bobby Fisher vs. Boris Spassky world championship match in 1972. I hope he'll play white because he'll lose otherwise.

@jdreyer, thank you for the compliment
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May 26, 2018, 17:13
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May 26, 2018, 17:13
 
Bludd wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:56:
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.

@Bludd, good points, you should post more often.

@Cake, a shame you'll miss out. What will you play instead? Something like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam?
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May 26, 2018, 16:56
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May 26, 2018, 16:56
 
thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 16:22:
Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
Hyperbole is a two-way street, dude.
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Hey if you people want to play female bionic commandos wearing Celtic woad warpaint in a game set in WW2, fill your boots. I'm not buying it and I said why. Instead of just letting my comment sit, you felt a need to ridicule me for it. Stay classy.
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May 26, 2018, 14:58
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Or everyone could just accept Female gender in a combat role... If your worried about genitalia so much there is enough porn for whatever suits your fancy.

Yeah I'm getting more on board with buying the game. So many whiny people it will make upset, its starting to be worth the cost. And if all the gender whiner's decide not to buy the game... hell maybe the community will improve? Still a BF game though, probably not.
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May 26, 2018, 13:45
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DangerDog wrote on May 26, 2018, 13:12:
Rhett wrote on May 26, 2018, 08:41:
If it was claiming to be 100% historically accurate, I would care... but it's not. Just looking at the trailer's thumbnail you can tell it's not taking itself seriously.

There are hardcore realism games like Squad, Post Scriptum and ARMA, and then there's Battlefield and Call of Duty, which pander to sales. Appreciation for historically accurate games has gone down the drain, because there's so little to work with (from our perspective at least - how many times do we have to take back France from the Nazis?!).

It's not a political statement, it's a game about shooting other people and having fun. With WW2 weapons. There are many things to be concerned about in today's world and this game is not one of them, lol.

DICE isn't using the term "Historically accurate" as far as I know, but they do keep saying "Authentic WWII experience" they just need to replace "Authentic" with "Fantastical".

It wouldn't do much to pleasing those wanting something "authentic" but at least it would be more true to what the game is. Complete fantasy.
But this rabbit hole is bottomless. You can say that even games striving for realism and accuracy are fantasies because they depict events that haven't happened; even Squad, for instance, has reviving and respawning and the scenarios you play aren't historical reenactments. ARMA 3 is about a made-up future conflict.

Even documentaries or history books are curated because 1) there is never absolute information certainty about even events that are in the information age and 2) day-to-day minutiae even of the most thrilling historical events are bound to be boring.

It's all about storytelling. An authentic experience can be historically inaccurate and not suffer for it at all.
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May 26, 2018, 13:12
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May 26, 2018, 13:12
 
Rhett wrote on May 26, 2018, 08:41:
If it was claiming to be 100% historically accurate, I would care... but it's not. Just looking at the trailer's thumbnail you can tell it's not taking itself seriously.

There are hardcore realism games like Squad, Post Scriptum and ARMA, and then there's Battlefield and Call of Duty, which pander to sales. Appreciation for historically accurate games has gone down the drain, because there's so little to work with (from our perspective at least - how many times do we have to take back France from the Nazis?!).

It's not a political statement, it's a game about shooting other people and having fun. With WW2 weapons. There are many things to be concerned about in today's world and this game is not one of them, lol.

DICE isn't using the term "Historically accurate" as far as I know, but they do keep saying "Authentic WWII experience" they just need to replace "Authentic" with "Fantastical".

It wouldn't do much to pleasing those wanting something "authentic" but at least it would be more true to what the game is. Complete fantasy.
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May 26, 2018, 12:00
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 26, 2018, 05:05:
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Yes. Serious. Like BF1942.

What?! No jeep launching ??

With enough TNT (4+) on the ground near a cliff, you drive (with FF off) at it in a jeep as fast as it can go, and the player who dropped it detonates it under it sending it -flying-. We use to try and get a jeep full guys flying, exiting it mid air trying to land on the b-17s wings.

BF1942 stunt servers were amazing fun back in the day.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 25, 2018, 18:36:

The fact that people are still losing their shit about female playable characters(or characters with prosthetics, etc.) in a BF game is laughable at this point. This is literally one of the least realistic series of games ever, from day one. If you want semi-realistic gameplay for WWII go play Red Orchestra 2.

I'm tempted to buy BFV purely for the rage it's causing various whiny groups, although the actual gameplay actually sounds really good.


So much this. I actually prefer MP games that intentionally antagonise their more toxic users so less of them stick around.

I try not to hang around with kekistani idiots in life so why would I in games. The less the better. Every game should put in Anita Sarkosian or whatever her name was like Towerfall did. I don't think her criticism is good, but anything to repel those gross vaginaphobes is ok with me.

Plus the old man and I have gotten A LOT of fun out of BF1, I'll wait for reviews given how bad the Star Wars games turned out but BF1 is always fun so I'll at least think about BFV. It's not ARMA and that's ok. We have that for 'Realism' as if anything on a screen can compare to a real deployment. I imagine most the people complaining are not athletic or smart enough to get paid to go shit your pants and get blown up by IED's in Afghanistan.
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May 26, 2018, 08:41
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If it was claiming to be 100% historically accurate, I would care... but it's not. Just looking at the trailer's thumbnail you can tell it's not taking itself seriously.

There are hardcore realism games like Squad, Post Scriptum and ARMA, and then there's Battlefield and Call of Duty, which pander to sales. Appreciation for historically accurate games has gone down the drain, because there's so little to work with (from our perspective at least - how many times do we have to take back France from the Nazis?!).

It's not a political statement, it's a game about shooting other people and having fun. With WW2 weapons. There are many things to be concerned about in today's world and this game is not one of them, lol.
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thecakeisalie wrote on May 26, 2018, 01:31:
I had to talk to my nephews and my sister about Fortnite since they were starting to spend all their allowances on VBucks. She put a stop to it. Good on Epic for making a hit but it's turning really young kids (under 10) into microtransaction junkies.

As for BF5, nope, nope and nope. Not interested in another WW2 shooter that panders to SJWs. I'm a liberal but I like my games to be historically accurate.
Yes I also remember reading in history books about the great turtle uprising in which two humble italian plumbers fought to save the world and a princess.

If you can't play historically inaccurate games, there are not many options for you. Maybe Chess, but you would have to play a game which has been played before, because you know, HISTORICAL ACCURACY
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