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No Borderlands 3 at E3?

Randy Pitchford indicates Gearbox will not be showing Borderlands 3 at E3, while expressing concerns that fan expectations for the shooter sequel are getting out of hand. He took to Twitter, a less than ideal platform to express complicated thoughts, as he had to spread his post over six tweets. It does bear pointing out that he takes pains to phrase this in a hypothetical manner, and nowhere in the six tweets does he come out and directly say the game will not appear at E3 (which would take far fewer than 280 characters). There is a post on Shacknews that says "A representative from Gearbox Software announced to a room of journalists earlier today that there will be no Borderlands presence at E3 whatsoever," though they don't offer any quotes to prove that this was not also doublespeak. Here are the tweets all strung together:

Todd Robbins is an awesome performer who is a master of the side-show. He does stuff like hammer a nail into his face or eat a light bulb whole, which is real. He also does some magic, which is fake. I’m going somewhere with this...

He once said (paraphrased), “When I make something vanish (which is a magic trick, and fake), people will swear that it is real. But when I eat a light bulb (which is not magic, and is real) people will swear that it is fake - a trick.”

The point is that it is kind of a part of our species that we tend to hold on to what we *want* to believe while discounting the truth if it contradicts that - no matter the evidence. It takes a disciplined mind to see reality for what it is.

For example, I could write it out now precisely and specifically that “Borderlands 3” will not be at E3 and many of you will choose not to believe it. Many of you will find a way to interpret the intent to suit what you want to believe regardless of what is true.

In fact, this aspect of human nature is so powerful that it is more likely this thread will increase the volume of the debate rather than diminish it. It feels as if “Borderlands 3” may be destined to be the next Half-Life 3 in that regard.

I *love* how important Borderlands is to so many of you. The developers of Gearbox Software are working harder than we have ever worked in order to create new and exciting things in hopes of entertaining you. Your passion fuels us. Thank you! I love you!

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24. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 18, 2018, 03:11 Ladron3dfx
 
I played all 3 games, all bosses, all dlc, all quests. yeah. Wink

oh guns, mmm no I didn't play for guns or drops. I completed bl2 story like 9 times and Siren was OP4, no mods whatsoever.

bring back slag, that is all.
 
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23. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 17, 2018, 10:35 Creston
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 16, 2018, 23:39:
Gearbox is convinced that people enjoy Borderlands games more with .0000001% drop rates for good guns.

Unless they drastically change that (or the mod scene is at least competent) I will be skipping Borderlands 3 until it's under $10 at least.

Yeah the drop rates are bullshit. However, I'm pretty sure that within a week or so, someone will have created a cheat engine script that fixes it. I used one for BL2 and it made the game 15 billion times more enjoyable.

The stupid thing is, the drop rates were fine in borderlands 1.
 
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22. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 17, 2018, 03:13 Sempai
 
That Rage 2 trailer made me giddy af..

Avalanche Studios(Just Cause, Mad Max)and Id all teamed up n stuff to to massage and cook us up a proper Rage sequel? And all w/no loot boxes confirmed? Bring that shit!

My loins are ready!

PS.Goddamnit Bethesda, i love/hate you so much..
 
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21. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 17, 2018, 02:26 jdreyer
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 16, 2018, 23:39:
Gearbox is convinced that people enjoy Borderlands games more with .0000001% drop rates for good guns.

Unless they drastically change that (or the mod scene is at least competent) I will be skipping Borderlands 3 until it's under $10 at least.

The BL2 guns were also much more dialed in. You were more likely to get something crazy in BL1. I had this pistol with a 35 round clip and cyclic rate of 20. It ruled. But I never saw anything near that in BL2. Still BL2 was by far the superior game.
 
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20. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 17, 2018, 02:23 jdreyer
 
HoSpanky wrote on May 16, 2018, 13:28:
Task wrote on May 16, 2018, 10:49:
The main news out of E3 I'm looking forward to is Cyberpunk anyways. And hopefully Nintendo does a Direct and shows Metroid Prime 4 or a new side-scroller like Zero Mission, Super Metroid, Fusion, or Returns.

Oh god I hope CDPR shows Cyberpunk, that’d be worth the trip right there. Anything else is icing.

It's a bit early for them to be showing it. The game isn't scheduled to ship until 2077.
 
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19. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 23:39 MoreLuckThanSkill
 
Gearbox is convinced that people enjoy Borderlands games more with .0000001% drop rates for good guns.

Unless they drastically change that (or the mod scene is at least competent) I will be skipping Borderlands 3 until it's under $10 at least.
 
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18. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 18:54 Flatline
 
jdreyer wrote on May 16, 2018, 12:45:
BL2 is one of my all time favs, but the Pre-Sequel kind of left me cold. Here's to hoping they spend the time to get BL3 right.

ZOMG this.

The loot sucked. I played through the whole goddamn thing as Wilhelm and 90% of the loot I got was... pistols and shitty commons. By the time I hit the last boss my assault rifle was like 5 or 6 levels below where I was at. I wasn't in the mood to grind gear.

That ruined it for me. On my first playthrough if I go more than 2 levels without upgrading the guns I play with, something is SEVERELY wrong with the loot tables.
 
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17. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 18:32 Cutter
 
Wtf do people use Shitter?
 
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16. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 17:14 ItBurn
 
Fan expectations too high? I love Borderlands, but from what I've seen of the two sequels, it's Gearbox who aims too low. Tons of issues and annoyances that could have been easily solved in the sequels were ignored and instead we got essentially the same game thrice.
edit: and I know Gearbox didn't directly do the pre-sequel, but the blood is still on their hands.
 
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15. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 16:03 Primalchrome
 
BL2 > BL > BL:PS

But none of that matters....because Cyberpunk 2077. Just go back and watch the trailer again.
 
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14. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 15:50 pagb
 
BL was nice because of the novelty factor... But BL2 was a chore, a complete borefest with irritating retarded humor... Pass.  
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13. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 14:03 Creston
 
while expressing concerns that fan expectations for the shooter sequel are getting out of hand

Possibly. On the flipside, you've had two games under your belt already, the first of which was good, and the second which was awesome, and there's like 45TB of "what we want to see in Borderlands 3" posts and forum threads to show you overall which direction by and large it should/could go in.

It doesn't seem unreasonable for fans to want BL3 to be your Magnum Opus, as a studio. Quite frankly, I feel that you should strive for that.

Especially after the fucking garbage that was the pre-sequel.
 
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12. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 13:31 Parallax Abstraction
 
Cyberpunk is unfortunately behind closed doors only.  
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11. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 13:28 HoSpanky
 
Task wrote on May 16, 2018, 10:49:
The main news out of E3 I'm looking forward to is Cyberpunk anyways. And hopefully Nintendo does a Direct and shows Metroid Prime 4 or a new side-scroller like Zero Mission, Super Metroid, Fusion, or Returns.

Oh god I hope CDPR shows Cyberpunk, that’d be worth the trip right there. Anything else is icing.
 
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10. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 12:54 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on May 16, 2018, 12:45:
BL2 is one of my all time favs, but the Pre-Sequel kind of left me cold. Here's to hoping they spend the time to get BL3 right.

Pre-Sequel was outsourced. I really loved BL2, but didn't even bother with it.
BL3 will be entirely in house.
 
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9. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 12:53 Verno
 
Burned out on the formula anyway. Bullet sponge enemies, humor is tired and not enough combat depth to keep me going. Didn't even finish Pre-Sequel, just totally bored with the series. They really need to back to the drawing board with it.  
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8. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 12:45 jdreyer
 
BL2 is one of my all time favs, but the Pre-Sequel kind of left me cold. Here's to hoping they spend the time to get BL3 right.  
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7. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 12:06 Darks
 
El Pit wrote on May 16, 2018, 11:59:
No Borderlands 3 at E3? I heard that the people behind Rage II drank a bottle of champagne when they heard about this.

Borderlands 3 wont be ready for at least another 2 years if not longer. Rage will be out next year. So, I doubt they are worried about Borderlands 3 competing with Rage 2.
 
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6. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 11:59 El Pit
 
No Borderlands 3 at E3? I heard that the people behind Rage II drank a bottle of champagne when they heard about this.  
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5. Re: No Borderlands 3 at E3? May 16, 2018, 11:26 Prez
 
Expectations are getting "out of hand"? Wtf does that even mean? All we expect is that they continue to keep the Borderlands series, the one thing Gearbox has going for it and hasn't fucked up yet, at the same level of quality and entertainment. Or is Randy Pitchford disappointed that he can't outsource the production to another subpar studio like he did with Aliens Colonial Marines? Randy needs to stop talking to the press and stay off social media. As for people not believing Randy Pitchford, can you blame them? The guy is kind of a dishonest douche.

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