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Night owls have a 10% increase in mortality risk, study says. Now this is weird, I always thought we all share the same 100% mortality rate. I guess there really is a good reason to try and get more sleep after all. The more you know!

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20. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 13, 2018, 16:22 Mr. Tact
 
Hmm, interesting... while I wasn't a regular viewer of the Beverly Hillbillies I'm guessing I saw enough episodes that I would have heard Jethro say that. I must have simply dismissed it out of hand as being wrong and not worth remembering...  
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19. Re: Activision Blizzard Record Results, Layoffs Apr 13, 2018, 15:25 Capella
 
Holly shit did you guys not watch The Beverly Hillbillies? Jethro was always going around saying he was going to be a "Double Nought" Spy.

 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 13, 2018, 15:01 Kxmode
 
Night owls have a 10% increase in mortality risk, study says.

Likely related to driving the next day. Serious sleep deprivation has the same effect as driving under the influence.
 
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17. Re: Activision Blizzard Record Results, Layoffs Apr 12, 2018, 22:02 Stormsinger
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 21:11:
Stormsinger wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 20:53:
Weird, nought was a commonly used word in my family growing up. I assumed it was, at least, not uncommon elsewhere. It's strange how small the "region" must be to generate local dialects.
Really? How old are you and where did you grow up? Outside the US? I'm in my mid 50s and lived in several different places in my youth (military brat) and I'm reasonably certain I never heard "nought" until I was an adult.
My immediate family was in Kansas City, my mother's family (where we "inherited" the term) was from the panhandle of Nebraska. But they'd traveled over much of the midwest in their time. I'm not really sure of the details, but I believe it was mostly due to some phrases my great uncle used to use, "All I get is noughts and ones" and the like. I know he was well educated, both academically and self-taught, so there's no telling where -he- picked it up.
 
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16. Re: Activision Blizzard Record Results, Layoffs Apr 12, 2018, 21:11 Mr. Tact
 
Stormsinger wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 20:53:
Weird, nought was a commonly used word in my family growing up. I assumed it was, at least, not uncommon elsewhere. It's strange how small the "region" must be to generate local dialects.
Really? How old are you and where did you grow up? Outside the US? I'm in my mid 50s and lived in several different places in my youth (military brat) and I'm reasonably certain I never heard "nought" until I was an adult.
 
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15. Re: Activision Blizzard Record Results, Layoffs Apr 12, 2018, 20:53 Stormsinger
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 20:28:
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 20:02:
Pretty sure he was commenting on the tenth digit being "ou" instead of zero. Which I agree was weird. Even odder is this could be potentially confusing since initially phone number included letters. So you would have thought they would have been careful to differentiate the two...

That makes a lot more sense

And it's not just confusing, the word it relates to, "nought" hadn't be used commonly for "zero" for nearly 900 years when this film was made.

I wonder if that is even correct english. Because in the context here it's CLEARLY not "nought", it's a zero, a part of the numeric dial system, not the absence of something or anything.

Ps.: Yes, I googled the word history back to the original source of Old English and Arab numbers. Interesting read.
Weird, nought was a commonly used word in my family growing up. I assumed it was, at least, not uncommon elsewhere. It's strange how small the "region" must be to generate local dialects.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 20:28 eRe4s3r
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 20:02:
Pretty sure he was commenting on the tenth digit being "ou" instead of zero. Which I agree was weird. Even odder is this could be potentially confusing since initially phone number included letters. So you would have thought they would have been careful to differentiate the two...

That makes a lot more sense

And it's not just confusing, the word it relates to, "nought" hadn't be used commonly for "zero" for nearly 900 years when this film was made.

I wonder if that is even correct english. Because in the context here it's CLEARLY not "nought", it's a zero, a part of the numeric dial system, not the absence of something or anything.

Ps.: Yes, I googled the word history back to the original source of Old English and Arab numbers. Interesting read.
 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 20:02 Mr. Tact
 
Pretty sure he was commenting on the tenth digit being "ou" instead of zero. Which I agree was weird. Even odder is this could be potentially confusing since initially phone number included letters. So you would have thought they would have been careful to differentiate the two...  
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 17:58 eRe4s3r
 
Capella wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 15:46:
Yea that video was a hoot. I love the comments. Did zero not exist back in those days?

Literally DIALING did not exist before this, you connected to an operator before. And had to know you had to wait for the connection tone before dialing (This was what operators did before they moved that up the to the user end) and Operators were basically "manual switches"

And yes, that sounds as funky as it was.
 
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 17:45 eRe4s3r
 
Funny, to me it's completely irrelevant whether it's night or day... I can work day or night, and did so, no problems, no sleep problems. I am actually MORE happy when it's dark and cool outside. Best time for me is.. around 3AM , when nature starts to awake I take a walk around the housing complex and it sounds like you are a in frigging jungle. Nothing like this can compare daily, and once sun is up you got PEOPLE noises, and I hate people

Also I guess I have a 110% risk of death. I am elated! I wasn't sure whether I would actually die or not.
 
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 15:46 Capella
 
Yea that video was a hoot. I love the comments. Did zero not exist back in those days?  
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 12:32 jdreyer
 
Primalchrome wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 10:38:
But are people more likely to be Night Owls *because* of health issues or is it vice versa? Maybe being a Night Owl and the increased mortality rate is the symptom rather than the cause.

I'm a night owl because I like to play PC games.
 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 12:16 RedEye9
 
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 12:08:
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 10:25:
LOL -- I thought for sure the story about an 11 year old racing prodigy was going to be about a horse. I figured they were just being goofy in the headline...

Good on her dad for being able to handle this but my god it's a dangerous sport.
I would like my 11 year old to be in sports were they can maybe break a leg or get a concussion not get completely torn in two.
The cars and sport are safe than sports involving horses.
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7. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 12:08 Tipsy McStagger
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 10:25:
LOL -- I thought for sure the story about an 11 year old racing prodigy was going to be about a horse. I figured they were just being goofy in the headline...

Good on her dad for being able to handle this but my god it's a dangerous sport.

I would like my 11 year old to be in sports were they can maybe break a leg or get a concussion not get completely torn in two.

 
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6. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 11:30 Cutter
 
I've done some shift work here and there over the years and I always found it to be brutal on my system. Especially in winter where'd you be going to bed when it's dark(ish) and waking up when it's dark. I very quickly learned night work is not for me. Yet, I've mainly worked afternoons/evenings and generally got to bed by 3 or 4 AM and up by noon with no problems for most of my life. And I always found that going the other way and getting up and going to work early for me was really tough too. I'd always be ready to crash and need a nap by 2 or 3 o'clock, where I was never tired working afternoon/evening shifts. My circadian clock seems to be permanently set for later in the day.


 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 11:05 RedEye9
 
Brazor wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 10:49:
I'm sleeping during the day and not night because I work at night. I don't care if I'm going to die 10% early or whatever. Not an issue.
Thousands of years of evolution and that big glowing thing in the sky don't care about any issues you may or may not have with it.

But at least you get 23% night shift differential.

 
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4. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 10:49 Brazor
 
I'm sleeping during the day and not night because I work at night. I don't care if I'm going to die 10% early or whatever. Not an issue.  
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 10:40 Mr. Tact
 
The Bell dialing video is somewhat amusing. Always fun to see how much the world has changed. My father would have been 23 years old when they introduced dialing. I wonder what he thought about it when he first heard. This general nostalgia led me to an 2014 Atlantic article on area codes which I found interesting.  
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2. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 10:38 Primalchrome
 
But are people more likely to be Night Owls *because* of health issues or is it vice versa? Maybe being a Night Owl and the increased mortality rate is the symptom rather than the cause.  
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1. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 12, 2018, 10:25 Mr. Tact
 
LOL -- I thought for sure the story about an 11 year old racing prodigy was going to be about a horse. I figured they were just being goofy in the headline...  
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