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20. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 13:22 jdreyer
 
NKD wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 08:38:
This bill is incredibly awful, and it's depressing that it has virtually universal bipartisan support. And of course Trump will rubberstamp anything that comes across his desk to look like he's actually doing some work and not just jerking off to Fox and Friends.

Not that he really had a choice here, though.

Yeah, the reason it passed is because it could be oversimplified to "He voted against the anti sex-trafficking bill! Why would he do that???"
 
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19. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 12:19 Nullity
 
jdreyer wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 05:14:
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:26:
Okay, first you know this passed on bi-partisan votes, right? 97-2 in the Senate and 388 - 25 in the House. Second, you were talking about Trump in your last four sentences, right?

Wait, wasn't his post satire? So hard to tell these days...
It seems Poe's Law becomes more relevant each day.
 
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18. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 12:12 RedEye9
 
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
Dance with the Derp derp.
Surely you're referring to the Intellectually, Politically and Morally bankrupt GOP platform/agenda.
 
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17. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 10:14 Beamer
 
Did we get a recent influx of religious loons, or did KXMode create a few fake accounts to take some heat off of him by making his religious views look positively rational and sane relative to these guys?  
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16. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 08:38 NKD
 
This bill is incredibly awful, and it's depressing that it has virtually universal bipartisan support. And of course Trump will rubberstamp anything that comes across his desk to look like he's actually doing some work and not just jerking off to Fox and Friends.

Not that he really had a choice here, though.
 
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15. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 08:18 TheVocalMinority
 
Interesting that most of the brain damaged TDS sufferers are strangely silent when this is the worst piece of American legislation to come into being in the Trump presidency. The authoritarians are licking their lips in anticipation.  
"How easily we let ourselves be taken in by partisan labels" - Solzhenitsyn
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14. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 07:18 Saboth
 
Sin or not, I see this law as a massive negative. Making website operators responsible for the speech of their users is one step toward crushing online free speech.

Plus, once again (like the war on drugs and pedophilia), we are willing to punish 99.99% of the population to try and catch/deter a teeny tiny portion of the criminal element. Even if it's only used for those specific circumstances such as sex trafficking now, 5, 10, 20 years from now it will be used to shut down any site for any reason.

There's no way websites can monitor all of the chat, ads, posts unless they are willing to devote massive time and/or money to it.
 
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13. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 06:47 Simon Says
 
Another law based on opinion ( iows religious and/or cult-ural dogmas/taboos/beliefs ) rather than evidence... *slow clap*  
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12. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 06:23 Luke
 


When you accept everything, you will fall for anything.

That's what people do today...look at faceshit , steamspy....yes yes yes I accept....pathetic
 
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11. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 05:18 jdreyer
 
VaranDragon wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 03:36:
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.


Name one conservative theocracy (now, or whenever in history) where people live the good life, have better protection under the law, and which isnt a fully blown police state?


Is... this a trick question?
 
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10. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 05:17 jdreyer
 
NicklePop wrote on Apr 12, 2018, 00:32:

Sin means lawlessness | law and sin are two sides of the same coin.

Uh, wut? Adultery is sin, but not illegal. Same with lying. Same with mixing linen and cotton, or working on the sabbath.
 
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9. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 05:14 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:26:
Okay, first you know this passed on bi-partisan votes, right? 97-2 in the Senate and 388 - 25 in the House. Second, you were talking about Trump in your last four sentences, right?

Wait, wasn't his post satire? So hard to tell these days...
 
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8. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 03:39 Quboid
 
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
Controversial only to the immoral (which is the LARGE majority) liberals who gave up decency and morals long ago. The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.

When you accept everything, you will fall for anything.

"and sex workers say it will make them less safe by driving them offline."

What do you expect when you live a life of MORTAL SIN? Dance with the devil and he's going to poke you. Derp derp. Don't be a heathen and be a decent human being and you will have a MUCH better life.

Do you think religious fundamentalists are liberals? Do you think liberals are against sex workers' rights? Do you what you said doesn't apply primarily to Trump and his supporters?

The lies some people have to cling to - but I suppose when you accept everything...
 
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7. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 03:36 VaranDragon
 
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.


Name one conservative theocracy (now, or whenever in history) where people live the good life, have better protection under the law, and which isnt a fully blown police state?

 
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6. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 12, 2018, 00:32 NicklePop
 
Scheherazade wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 23:43:
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
Controversial only to the immoral (which is the LARGE majority) liberals who gave up decency and morals long ago. The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.

When you accept everything, you will fall for anything.

"and sex workers say it will make them less safe by driving them offline."

What do you expect when you live a life of MORTAL SIN? Dance with the devil and he's going to poke you. Derp derp. Don't be a heathen and be a decent human being and you will have a MUCH better life.

Sin is a religious matter, and has no place in law.

-scheherazade

Sin means lawlessness | law and sin are two sides of the same coin.

All violations of are law is sin | murder, theft, etc.

Even jaywalking can be seen as sin in that you're putting another person in the position of possibly harming you.

Sin = not caring about unseen consequences which is "lawlessness"
 
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5. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 11, 2018, 23:43 Scheherazade
 
SirKnight wrote on Apr 11, 2018, 21:19:
Controversial only to the immoral (which is the LARGE majority) liberals who gave up decency and morals long ago. The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.

When you accept everything, you will fall for anything.

"and sex workers say it will make them less safe by driving them offline."

What do you expect when you live a life of MORTAL SIN? Dance with the devil and he's going to poke you. Derp derp. Don't be a heathen and be a decent human being and you will have a MUCH better life.

Sin is a religious matter, and has no place in law.

-scheherazade
 
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4. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 11, 2018, 22:05 heroin
 
Ironic, Trump seems to love his whores. I guess he just has a thing against working class Back Page whores. This is class war!  
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3. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 11, 2018, 22:03 jacobvandy
 
Yeah... Rather than being triggered by the mention of he-who-shall-not-be-named Rolleyes , I'd suggest RTFA. Or here, a more comprehensive look at the issue that informed it: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/how-congress-censored-internet

Bottom line, it's bad, any help it might provide in the fight against sex trafficking is far outweighed by the Orwellian indirect attack on internet freedoms. Site owners such as Blue now have to worry about everything their users post (or might have posted previously), because just a poorly-worded crude joke that might possibly be construed as even supporting some kind of prostitution could get him in criminal trouble. Which I'm sure would be the end of Blue's News real quick, or at least the community portion of it. This isn't a partisan issue, it's not even pretending to be one as most of them do -- this is the government fucking all of us equally.
 
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2. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 11, 2018, 21:26 Mr. Tact
 
Okay, first you know this passed on bi-partisan votes, right? 97-2 in the Senate and 388 - 25 in the House. Second, you were talking about Trump in your last four sentences, right?  
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1. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Apr 11, 2018, 21:19 SirKnight
 
Controversial only to the immoral (which is the LARGE majority) liberals who gave up decency and morals long ago. The type of people who accept anything and everything, no matter how immoral or evil it is, just as long as it "feels good" and/or is politically correct.

When you accept everything, you will fall for anything.

"and sex workers say it will make them less safe by driving them offline."

What do you expect when you live a life of MORTAL SIN? Dance with the devil and he's going to poke you. Derp derp. Don't be a heathen and be a decent human being and you will have a MUCH better life.
 
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